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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 03:27 PM
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Default How do you SFWD civics make weight?

Last I saw, min. weight was 2400 lbs with driver (1 power adder). Last time I raced, my car weighed 2315 lbs with me in it. Its an EG hatch with a prelude motor, no passenger seat (~15 lbs), no carpet (~10 lbs). All body panels and glass are stock and I haven't done any weight savings (purposely). So do you guys add ballast?

And don't give me **** about not having a pass. seat and carpet, I know I need it to compete in sfwd.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 03:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mikey3000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> So do you guys add ballast?

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Lead shot.. You can add it to round or square tubing in the front of the car, either horizontally over the lower front support or somehow over the tires.... Well ultimately you can add it anywhere (duh) but these are the spots that are popular
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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more mcdonalds and taco bell = heavier driver

lead seems to be the choice of most -- mount it where you feel it is most appropriate

we generally had about 75 pounds of ballast on the car when it was running with the car weighing 2425 or so with driver
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 03:42 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Innes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heavier driver</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 04:20 PM
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The rulls say 2400lbs, is that with or without the driver? I alwasy tought without the driver!!
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 04:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by B18c1turboedEK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The rulls say 2400lbs, is that with or without the driver? I alwasy tought without the driver!! </TD></TR></TABLE>

with
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 04:41 PM
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You can always add tungsten. its about 40% heavier than lead.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 04:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omniman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can always add tungsten. its about 40% heavier than lead.</TD></TR></TABLE>

so what is heavier -- 10 lbs of lead or 10 lbs of tungsten ?
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Innes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

so what is heavier -- 10 lbs of lead or 10 lbs of tungsten ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

lol
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:03 PM
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thats a hard 1, but im going to say, OR
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:19 PM
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i'd really like to get my car "balanced" as far as weight goes so here's what i'm thinking.

In order of operation:

-Set ride height equal on left/right corners.
-Put car on scales with me in driver's seat and tire pressure at race pressure
-Place ballast accordingly to get left/right balance as close as possible
-If ballast doesn't completely balance the car left to right, move on to height adjustment?? to "lean" weight to the lighter side
-Get car aligned

How does this sound?
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 06:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Innes &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

so what is heavier -- 10 lbs of lead or 10 lbs of tungsten ? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Geeez... I think he was referring to a given size of the different products. a 4"X4"X4" cube of tungsten will weigh more than the same size block of lead
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 06:24 PM
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theres a smart *** in every forum. I guess i should idiot proof the phrase.

tungsten would take up less space to achieve the same weight addition.
same weight smaller volume of material.

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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by omniman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

tungsten would take up less space to achieve the same weight addition.
same weight smaller volume of material.

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yea but it will cost about 200 x as much... we run between 4 and 10 , 3x4x6 tungsten "sticks" in our craftsman truck @ $$$1000 a stick !!!!!!
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by antireversion &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
yea but it will cost about 200 x as much... we run between 4 and 10 , 3x4x6 tungsten "sticks" in our craftsman truck @ $$$1000 a stick !!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

thanks, call me a smartass, call me what you want, i know exactly what steve meant with his comment on space vs weight, etc, etc -- fact of the matter is people have a hard enough time getting their cars to the track on the money they have to spend as it is....bringing in exotic material suggestions for people to try is not the best idea, lead is readily available and quite inexpensive -- it isn't like any of us are out of room to add weight -- there are plenty of options for placement regardless of size

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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mikey3000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Last I saw, min. weight was 2400 lbs with driver (1 power adder). Last time I raced, my car weighed 2315 lbs with me in it. Its an EG hatch with a prelude motor, no passenger seat (~15 lbs), no carpet (~10 lbs). All body panels and glass are stock and I haven't done any weight savings (purposely). So do you guys add ballast?

And don't give me **** about not having a pass. seat and carpet, I know I need it to compete in sfwd.</TD></TR></TABLE>


You don't have a cage in your car do you? I dont remember seeing one in it last year at Tempest when you came by.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 08:26 PM
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it has a 6 point. i'm looking for someone to add a-pillar bars now.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 08:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mikey3000 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it has a 6 point. i'm looking for someone to add a-pillar bars now.</TD></TR></TABLE>


That will add some weight right there. You also need your chute since you are close to that 150mph mark man. Chute and all about 20 or so pounds there. After the halo and frotn bars and chute and such you may be able to make weight at that point man. Good luck .


Also when you weighed the car where did you weigh it and who did it? I used the OLD *** scaled at MIR myself and that **** was 100lbs off of the new Digital Scale they got there so.....
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 01:29 AM
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i dont have to worry, my car is alittle on the fat side... Might put it on a diet...
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 03:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Boostfed.com &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


That will add some weight right there. You also need your chute since you are close to that 150mph mark man. Chute and all about 20 or so pounds there. After the halo and frotn bars and chute and such you may be able to make weight at that point man. Good luck .


Also when you weighed the car where did you weigh it and who did it? I used the OLD *** scaled at MIR myself and that **** was 100lbs off of the new Digital Scale they got there so.....</TD></TR></TABLE>

It was the scale at MIR to the left of the time slip booth (at the NOPI event). You're probably right. With that stuff, a passenger seat and carpet it should definitely be close to 2400.
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 03:42 AM
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I put leather seats in the rear to add some weight and its pimpin
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 03:50 AM
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i have no problems. last year i was 2650 with driver. he hee. but i did no weight reduction to the car. just removed the spare and jack and stuff, this year, hvac gone, p/s gone, smaller batt, lighter wheels, removed bumper supports. he hee. oh yeah and half the 5 lug is gone too.
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 04:03 AM
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could be as bad off as me i am about 375lbs under 2400lbs mark

i need 100lbs fenders and 175lbs hood lal
any ideas for me
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 05:59 AM
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does it have a cage?
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 06:06 AM
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2315 is not bad at all,add a little lead here and there in the right places and you should be fine...Most SFWD cars that are done to the T actuall try to shed weight...last year we were borderline,when we went to Moroso the car weighed in at 2401 the official told felix to go have a huge lunch before next round.lol.
This year we are actually 65lbs over so i think its time for some skinnies.
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