bye bye to my s2k
My s2000 was never that special, it was just a totally stock low mileage ap1 which i enjoyed driving on the weekends. It was very clean and well taken care of - and more important it was mine.


A recent engine bay picture - yeah its that clean!

So last friday night around 11:30 my buddy and i were coming back from a friends house. I was a bit tired so i let him drive. He went around a corner a little to fast and let off the gas mid corner which of course caused the car to spin. We struck the curb, hard enough to break all the suspension on the drivers side, and then went up onto the sidewalk. From there the car spun 180 degrees backwards and we went into a very large metal fence which was cemented into the ground. We hit something else and spun around 180 degrees again the other way and went down a very steep embackment.
Ironic enough - we crashed into a cemetery. Didnt hit any head stones though! That would have a whole other nightmare.
We both walked away without a scratch or bruise. My neck/back was a little sore the next day and i had trouble sleeping for the first two nights. But now im as good as i ever was.
My insurance company declared the car totaled and are coving the loss. Lucky for me they are putting it as a non-fault accident on my insurance record because i was not driving at the time. My buddy will get an "accident" on his driving record however. Either way im just happy everybody is okay. Oh and a big thanks to honda for making a safe car! I still cant believe i walked away from it without a scratch.
I'll let the pictures do the talking...





RIP

liam
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its great that your insurance company is going to stick you w/ a "no fault" charge .. but the insurance is still going up my friend ...
car looked like you just dug it up out of a sand pit or something ...
car looked like you just dug it up out of a sand pit or something ...
S2k's are very safe cars, i was in a similar accident that nobody should walk away from and i came out with nothing more than a sore back. Keep your head up, i was depressed i crashed my S but im thinkin in a bout a year or so im buying another one.
If he lets off the gas in mid turn then torque is no longer being transferred to the rear tires. Now the rear tires are only adhesing traction for the turn and not for forward thrust from engine power. By your account, I dont think the car would have a reason to spin around unless he powered through the turn and let off once the rear was coming around and it was too late. At that point he needed to counter steer in the opposite direction the rear is headed to. At least your insurance is covering it. If I was U id ask him for some money for a down payment to help get me a new car.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nameless Warrior »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What I want to know is. Insurance is willing to cover for the car enough though the INS holder waas not driving? Interesting....</TD></TR></TABLE>
I have allstate and they will.
I have allstate and they will.
Thanks guys - im really glad everybody is okay too.
Drive safe out there.<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ARS2K »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If he lets off the gas in mid turn then torque is no longer being transferred to the rear tires. Now the rear tires are only adhesing traction for the turn and not for forward thrust from engine power. By your account, I dont think the car would have a reason to spin around unless he powered through the turn and let off once the rear was coming around and it was too late. At that point he needed to counter steer in the opposite direction the rear is headed to. At least your insurance is covering it. If I was U id ask him for some money for a down payment to help get me a new car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Well as i remember it, the rear started to slide out and he let go over the gas which caused it to spin. A little counter steer and gas probably would have saved the day.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nameless Warrior »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What I want to know is. Insurance is willing to cover for the car enough though the INS holder waas not driving? Interesting....</TD></TR></TABLE>
Correct - most insurance companies do this. IE letting your family drive your car or your girlfriend/boyfriend drive your car. Or lets say you were drunk and a buddy drove you home. There are tons of reasons why letting somebody else drive your car is a good idea, sometimes they just dont work out like you wanted which is where insurance comes into play.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Carlo »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">How fast was he going? Drunk? Looks like a pretty bad accident</TD></TR></TABLE>
No, nobody was drinking. Just went a little to fast around a corner.
liam
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ARS2K »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If he lets off the gas in mid turn then torque is no longer being transferred to the rear tires. Now the rear tires are only adhesing traction for the turn and not for forward thrust from engine power. By your account, I dont think the car would have a reason to spin around unless he powered through the turn and let off once the rear was coming around and it was too late. At that point he needed to counter steer in the opposite direction the rear is headed to. At least your insurance is covering it. If I was U id ask him for some money for a down payment to help get me a new car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Lift off oversteer is pretty common on these cars. Even FWD ITR's have been victims of this. When cornering hard, do NOT let up on the gas.
Lift off oversteer is pretty common on these cars. Even FWD ITR's have been victims of this. When cornering hard, do NOT let up on the gas.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ARS2K »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If he lets off the gas in mid turn then torque is no longer being transferred to the rear tires. Now the rear tires are only adhesing traction for the turn and not for forward thrust from engine power. By your account, I dont think the car would have a reason to spin around unless he powered through the turn and let off once the rear was coming around and it was too late. At that point he needed to counter steer in the opposite direction the rear is headed to. At least your insurance is covering it. If I was U id ask him for some money for a down payment to help get me a new car.</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by P Nut »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Lift off oversteer is pretty common on these cars. Even FWD ITR's have been victims of this. When cornering hard, do NOT let up on the gas.</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly......it's called weight transfer.
my fwd prelude will do the same thing if you let off coming in hard to a curve.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by P Nut »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Lift off oversteer is pretty common on these cars. Even FWD ITR's have been victims of this. When cornering hard, do NOT let up on the gas.</TD></TR></TABLE>
exactly......it's called weight transfer.
my fwd prelude will do the same thing if you let off coming in hard to a curve.






