i need some good input on some good hid kits for H4 kits.. i know this is a descussion post, not really tech related..but i trust youre guy's input over anyones..so please dont flag.. .... Any name brands to look for when i buy..and what not to look for.. i want to get some good BRIGHT bulbs..not anthing that looks like i bought it at the napa for $35 . Also do most of em come with combination (highbeams...low beams) ...also what kind of wattage should i look for ?.. so far the research ive done i made up my mind that i want iether blue ..to purple.. but still havent decided.... sorry for the novel.. -thanx HT..

 

Retrofit is the way to go.. https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1108424 .

 

ya that sounds sick.. but still just lookn for some input on some other hids

 

The plug and play kits are ok.....but for the best light output and quility retofit is the way to go


Modified by cimo463 at 12:40 PM 6/20/2007

 

any brands that i should look for? also wattage? if i run a higher wattage (12K) does that cut down the life of the bulb?

 

higher k = more purple.

= your gonna get a ticket.

 

Okay, first I'll begin with what has become the standard disclaimer, and please don't interpret any of my reply as "flaming". Putting a drop-in HID kit into your stock Civic H4 housings is going to yield poor results. The housings were simply not designed for HID use, and what you'll end up with is a poor beam pattern and a lot of glare. The stock Civic headlights are not very good even among halogen housings, so overloading them with HID capsules only makes matters worse.

Second, the Kelvin rating (K) is not an indication of wattage or the amount of light output. It essentially indicates the color of the light that will be produced, and in fact, as the temperature rises above 4300K, the less light (both overall and useful) is generated.

Finally, you really need to decide what you're trying to achieve. It seems as if you're primary concern is having a blue/purple look rather than actually improving the performance of your headlights. If that's the case, it really doesn't matter which kit you choose, since any of the ultra-high Kelvin setups will produce the useless blue/purple light and lots of glare which other drivers will certainly think looks "bright" (not to mention annoying, distracting, unsafe, and illegal).

 

thats some damn good advice.. thanks for the info.. i actually even feel a little smarter now that i read what ya had to say!!

 

if your not planning on doing a retro fit after all that has been said, maybe you should try and find a plug and play d2r hid kit and buy this h4 adapter that would allow you to use the bulb in your stock housing http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1

hope that helps

 

OR
you cannot do a plug and play kit...
why? if you go cheap you'll get the single-xenon pnp kit which means say buh bye to your hi-beams. You can get the bi-xenon pnp kit but that's double the price. Furthermore, reliability is an issue. Especially if you're paying 300-400+ for something that won't yield positive results.
You also have to take in account the lumens those product produces. The more lumens your bulb puts out, the more usable light you will get. Again, not all HID bulbs produce the same lumens. For instance, D2R bulbs produce 2800 lumens whereas D2S produce 3150 lumens. The new 85122+ philips bulbs produce 3,400 lumens!!
However, do you know how many lumens aftermarket kits produce? No.

If you want to go with a projector retrofit, it will cost the same as going with a pnp kit with the 200-300 range. However, you will have a better projective lightning that will illuminate the road twice to three times better than with a pnp kit.

Someone also mentioned the Kelvin temperature. The higher above 5,000 kelvin the more white you get then when you hit 8,000K you get blue then 10,000K you get purple and so on. However, Do not go above 5,000Kelvin. Reason why is because white and blue get the worst output in rain. This is due to the fact that blue and white get washed off by water thus leaving you with no output or an output that a halogen bulb can outperform.

 

I agree with Striker, he speaks the truth. Retrofitting is the way to go! Reflector + HID = no bueno.

 

http://www.autolamps-online.co...e.htm

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o yea. you want a solenoid based bixenon. gonna get far more reliability.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by menappi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">o yea. you want a solenoid based bixenon. gonna get far more reliability.</TD></TR></TABLE>

these are the ones I got, seller had fast shipping and they work great even comes with the harness. Its a solenoid based H4 so it has high and low. If you already have the ballasts these work great. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...79530

 

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these are the ones I got, seller had fast shipping and they work great even comes with the harness. Its a solenoid based H4 so it has high and low. If you already have the ballasts these work great. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...79530</TD></TR></TABLE>
stop...giving...BAD...ADViCE
geez

 

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x2, world of a difference, end of story, stop thread here!

 

im not sure whether your really looking for advice, or just looking for someone to reassure you of your decision to get an H4 pnp kit.

 

so would a 3000k bulb be super bright? and are 3000ks yellow?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jewpont &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so would a 3000k bulb be super bright? and are 3000ks yellow?</TD></TR></TABLE>

It would be yellow, still be illegal, and worse than a good halogen.

 

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It would be yellow, still be illegal, and worse than a good halogen.</TD></TR></TABLE>

X2, tried it once for a little bit way back when, for one winter, looks cool in the snow, but def an eye catcher for cops.

Best bet is what was posted earlier:
http://www.autolamps-online.co...e.htm

 

so what is the brightest kelvin rating and what color is it?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by jewpont &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what is the brightest kelvin rating and what color is it?</TD></TR></TABLE>
From technical standpoint, 4300, just white. Anything blue or purple (6000k +) your just losing light, and its mainly just for looks.

 

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From technical standpoint, 4300, just white. Anything blue or purple (6000k +) your just losing light, and its mainly just for looks.</TD></TR></TABLE>
incorrect...
4,300K is 70% white - 30% yellow...
anything above 5,000K will decrease output but you will get more color out of it

 

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incorrect...
4,300K is 70% white - 30% yellow...
anything above 5,000K will decrease output but you will get more color out of it</TD></TR></TABLE>

All oem HID's are 4300k for the most efficient road lighting. If 5000k were better light, they would come standard. Most useable light will be the brightest.

 

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All oem HID's are 4300k for the most efficient road lighting. If 5000k were better light, they would come standard. Most useable light will be the brightest.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Some mercedez and bmw come stock with 4,750K bulbs
I believe Osram makes them