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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 06:49 PM
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im just curious, no need to flame.
in your guys opinion, what mods would a 07 civic si coupe need to beat an sti
the sti's that runs about 300hp idk about the most recent versions...
but about the mods...
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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IBTL
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 07:06 PM
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wow i hope not
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 07:07 PM
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turbo and IBTL
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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i figured a greddy turbo maybe but what else?
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 07:08 PM
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Im not a *** and dont know what ITBL means
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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ibtl = in before the lock

and as for the OP's question, you would need an evo conversion to beat an sti...
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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turbo charge(40-50 boost), gut it out(make it light), and over bore stock block. hell i don't, just my .02
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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A new engine...
Probably a new interior...
A new drivetrain definitely...
And probably a new body/frame.

I think you can a package deal on all that stuff for about 30k, just look around.
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 09:51 PM
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I hope everyone above me is kidding....

Why is everyone acting like the STI is some fast super car?

You just need around 220-230ish WHP. We have about a 400 lb weight advantage. The STI has AWD so if you race it from a dig you might have problems the first few gears.

Stock STI makes about 250ish whp, and weighs around 3200 lbs. So a greddy turbo at stock PSI should do it, a s/c on stock PSI should do it.. a 50 shot should do it..
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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your talking about a turbo, awd car bro.......
vs a n/a front wheel drive.
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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they are blowing up the sti a little to much though.........

an sti can be beatin.
sleeves, pistons, rods, etc......
turbo
slicks
proper tuning.......

you would have a shot.

trust me, im with you on wanting to beat one. i have buddys who drive sti's........ wrx's
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 10:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ley &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I hope everyone above me is kidding....

Why is everyone acting like the STI is some fast super car?

You just need around 220-230ish WHP. We have about a 400 lb weight advantage. The STI has AWD so if you race it from a dig you might have problems the first few gears.

Stock STI makes about 250ish whp, and weighs around 3200 lbs. So a greddy turbo at stock PSI should do it, a s/c on stock PSI should do it.. a 50 shot should do it..</TD></TR></TABLE>

Power to weight ratio is not the only factor here. Gear ratio, torque, acceleration between speeds, AWD &gt; FWD, traction etc etc. Just as moderately modded WRX's still have a difficult time catching up to it's STi big bro. FI SI, however, would level the playing field by a LOT.
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 10:34 PM
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well i was just kidding

ajp or, better yet, full-race turbo kit will more than take care of it

just make sure you can put that power to the ground
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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sti/evo are not that fast in stock form
from a dig, we'll probably get destroyed
but from a roll, bolt-ons and a reflash should be on par if not slightly ahead of a sti/evo
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 06:33 AM
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I know this kid with a Comptech S/C that raced a stock EVO and won. Granted and EVO is not an STi and it was from a roll. But IMO evo and the STi are closley matched. I dunno what these other people are talking about.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 06:37 AM
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You make my 6th gen Accord sad

BTW, STi's, Evos, and Si's weren't built for street racing. Try them at the track. When you spank the **** out of them, feel happy.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 06:39 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Michael Bolton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know this kid with a Comptech S/C that raced a stock EVO and won. Granted and EVO is not an STi and it was from a roll. But IMO evo and the STi are closley matched. I dunno what these other people are talking about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

:whistles:
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 06:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Granted and EVO is not an STi a</TD></TR></TABLE>

It is well documented that Evo &gt; STi
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 07:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ley &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It is well documented that Evo &gt; STi</TD></TR></TABLE>

**** that

Subaru &gt; Mitsubishi anyday.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 08:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ley &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

It is well documented that Evo &gt; STi</TD></TR></TABLE>
link?

But they are comprable. Thats the point expletive stain. It has nothing to do with which one is better. They are both very similiar AWD/TURBO etc. Im just trying to gives guy a ******* idea about what kind of mods it would take to beat an EVO in a racewith some real expirence. expletive
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Michael Bolton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know this kid with a Comptech S/C that raced a stock EVO and won. Granted and EVO is not an STi and it was from a roll. But IMO evo and the STi are closley matched. I dunno what these other people are talking about.</TD></TR></TABLE>

:whistles:

I beat an STI last week, and an M3 the week before... (i remember some turbo FG lost to one in a video posted on another site)

The STI kill story was funny because I managed to hang with him off the line with bald OEM tires...

And last night I got pwned by a turbo galant. BS!

But yea, STI's and Evo's aren't magical supercars. A bolt-on supercharger, cold air intake and exhaust is all I needed.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by COMplex. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

:whistles:

I beat an STI last week, and an M3 the week before... (i remember some turbo FG lost to one in a video posted on another site)

The STI kill story was funny because I managed to hang with him off the line with bald OEM tires...

And last night I got pwned by a turbo galant. BS!

But yea, STI's and Evo's aren't magical supercars. A bolt-on supercharger, cold air intake and exhaust is all I needed. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Galant VR4....or a newer one with a turbo. on the other kills
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by COMplex. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A bolt-on supercharger, cold air intake and exhaust is all I needed. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow, that's it?

You would probably need a good ~60 or so WHP to keep up with an STI, and that's just on a straight-away. Encounter any area where grip is needed and you're gonna need a lot more than just more hp.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by elohel &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wow, that's it?

You would probably need a good ~60 or so WHP to keep up with an STI, and that's just on a straight-away. Encounter any area where grip is needed and you're gonna need a lot more than just more hp.</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accordselux &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
BTW, STi's, Evos, and Si's weren't built for street racing. Try them at the track. When you spank the **** out of them, feel happy.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thank you

You goin to the MN meet this weekend? I want to but I'm really looking forward to the MSRA show on Sunday.
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