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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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Would I need ESMMs on a base RSX if I got a 4-2-1 header? I'm trying to avoid using them but if I do need them, would I be better off getting a RH? Do I need anything else so I can keep the car in tip-top shape?

Or better yet... wait and just get a K20A3 Jackson Supercharger?

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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 09:44 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by A3Elite &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Would I need ESMMs on a base RSX if I got a 4-2-1 header? I'm trying to avoid using them but if I do need them, would I be better off getting a RH? Do I need anything else so I can keep the car in tip-top shape?

Or better yet... wait and just get a K20A3 Jackson Supercharger?

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No you don't need the esmms if you get 4-2-1... You're better off getting the rh, but you will need the inserts.

No need to wait and get a s/c.. When you supercharge you can keep your existing bolt ons...
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 10:31 AM
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Thanks for the reply. Anyone know how much better the gains of an RH over the 4-2-1 are?
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by A3Elite &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thanks for the reply. Anyone know how much better the gains of an RH over the 4-2-1 are?
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Gains are a hell of a lot better. I ran a Strup shorty and changed over to a dcrh, you deff. notice a diff. because there's less restriction and of course you would need a type-s exhaust system and yes you would need the ESMM's
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 12:46 PM
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whats essm? are the stock type-s 2" inch?
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 12:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Prelude951 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">whats essm? are the stock type-s 2" inch?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Energy Suspension Motor Mount Inserts and I believe the stock type-s is 2.36. The 02-04's is smaller than the 05-06.
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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JDMk20R, thanks bro
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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Why would I need a Type-S exhaust if this RH is for the base model??


Modified by A3Elite at 7:58 PM 6/20/2007
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Old Jun 20, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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**Bump** Trying to order it before the weekend and need some help.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 07:38 PM
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Are you sure the RH your looking at is SPECIFIED for the Base? I thought the RH's where only made for the Type-S...
If it's a RH for the Type-S then you will need a Type-S exhaust so that it can bolt right on.
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 10:48 PM
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Not a prob bro, K clearing things up...

Yes there is a dcrh for the base/si which is DCS-HHR6515 and the type-s is DCS-AHR6514

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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 01:02 AM
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RH is the best. If you get the torque damper you should be good, plus you won't get the vibration like the ESMM will give you.
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 08:58 PM
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^^^is that true? I've read ESMM everywhere.

No offense, rev!
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 10:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by A3Elite &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Would I need ESMMs on a base RSX if I got a 4-2-1 header? I'm trying to avoid using them but if I do need them, would I be better off getting a RH? Do I need anything else so I can keep the car in tip-top shape?

Or better yet... wait and just get a K20A3 Jackson Supercharger?

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You do know that the jrsc wont fit the base right?
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Old Jun 22, 2007 | 10:32 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by A3Elite &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^^^is that true? I've read ESMM everywhere.

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The torque damper is smoother for comfort and easier to install. When I get around to the header I'm gonna get the ingals torque damper.

RH is the best cause it's the most free flowing. RH remove cats, so you need a defouler($15), so u don't throw a check engine light(CEL).
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:42 AM
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where did u get your defouler? i can't seem to contact that seller from rsxclub dude.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Prelude951 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">where did u get your defouler? i can't seem to contact that seller from rsxclub dude.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Kabe is usually quick to respond, but you can pick one up at any autoparts store ie. Autozone, Kragen etc. lol Should only be a few bucks
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 09:12 PM
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I made mine. Here is how:

If you are getting a CEL (check engine light) after installing high flow cats or test pipes, then you need this easy fix. No expensive 02 simulator is needed. They are more $ and more work than is needed. The HELP! method is tried and proven to get rid the test pipe related CEL.

Get two packs of HELP! Spark plug nonfoulers - part number 42002 or 42009 (either will work) - these are readily available at Autozone, Checker, Pep Boys, etc.

Drill ONLY 2 of the nonfoulers out with a 1/2" drill bit. Fit 1 NON-drilled fouler into each test pipe. Fit 1 drilled nonfouler into the previously installed undrilled fouler on each bank. Finally insert your o2 sensor into the drilled nonfouler and reconnect the wires.



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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 09:15 PM
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Not bad at all and cheap
Glad to help.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 11:09 AM
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did i need at least 4 nonfouler pieces? do i just need one for the test pipe or two for both holes of the pipe. i have a dchr. thanks
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 11:29 AM
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One hole gets capped off I believe cause there is an O2 sensor before the cat and one after. You need to defouler the secondary O2.

The O2 sensor before the cat doesn't need the defouler of course. You just need to and stack them on top of eachother.
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Old Jun 30, 2007 | 11:52 AM
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just want to make sure, the secondary 02 is the one far to the cat instead close to the header? thanks bro, i'm doing it right now. gettin it drill. the only problem is the o2 wires are too short. won't reach. should i rewire it longer. should i solder those 4 wires instead of pinch or clamp? thanks
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Old Jul 2, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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They make extensions for the O2, but you can do it yourself if you want. If you do it yourself make sure to put insulation over the wires that you joined.
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Old Jul 6, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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ok bad news, it didnt work as you said. I did exactly you what you show above. Drilled a 1/2 inch drill bits. attach the drilled nonfouler after or behind the non-drilled nonfouler then inserted the o2 sensor. Extended the wires and all wires are correct. Reset the ECU or unplug the battery for 1 mintue, start the engine and check light pops back on. Is it my o2 sensor? I should mention this, when i brought the dcrh, dude had two sensor still on it, so i used it instead of my stock one. what should i do before using my stock o2, didnt want stock o2 go to waste because of futher smog check later. thanks

btw, the o2 sensor before the cat. does that need to be capped off? i still had a o2 sensor stick to that one as well. capped off means plug it with a bolt with no o2 on it right?
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Old Jul 8, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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The O2 sensor should go into the furthest hole. All that O2 sesnor really does is make sure the cat is working right. The old O2 sensors could be messed up indeed. I didn't even need to resest my ecu when I did the whole job. CEL never came on for me.

Let me know what's up.
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