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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 09:08 AM
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Hello All,

Had had rotors replaced and brake lines (all new), now when i brake its vibrates (only noticeable after 50+). I have checked the caliper bolts, all is tight.

Curb'd the car previously before changing brake setup - what could cause the vibration from this possibly?

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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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anyone?
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 09:44 AM
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does it vibrate through the steering wheel?

did you ever get your car aligned and checked out after damaging it by running it in to a curb?

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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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yep,

it vibrates via steering wheel. Had the car checked and aligned, nothing bent.

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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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steering rack needs attention.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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when i shake the steering wheel without the car on it makes a slight knock sound when the steering is moved to the right
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 10:04 AM
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messure the runout on your rotors, did you use cheap autozone rotors?

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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 10:09 AM
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brembo drilled,

can you explain runout?
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mohsin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">when i shake the steering wheel without the car on it makes a slight knock sound when the steering is moved to the right
</TD></TR></TABLE><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">steering rack needs attention.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:44 AM
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is a DC2 rack bolt in?

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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mohsin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">is a DC2 rack bolt in?

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a bolt in for what car?
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 12:21 PM
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sorry, forgot to mention, car - EG6 SiR.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 12:41 PM
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Did you check the condition of your tires?
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 12:49 PM
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new goodyear f1's. Weird thing was when I got the brake setup installed it didnt vibrate but now over time its vibration has gotten worse. Could it be the inner tie rods causing the problem?

At the moment as Tyson pointed out looks like the rack as there is a slight knocking sound coming when i turn it quickly right without the engine on.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mohsin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">sorry, forgot to mention, car - EG6 SiR.</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats a big 10 4 good buddy

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mohsin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> but now over time its vibration has gotten worse. .</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's quite possible you could have warped the new rotors. How many hard braking situations have you had? Be honest, you'd only be lying to yourself. We can only help if we have 100% facts.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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when you have play in your steering, it becomes a chicken and the egg situation with warped rotors.

a warped rotor will induce movement in the suspension. but excessive play in your suspension will cause the car to vibrate, commonly described as "violent" or "horrible shaking". a warped rotor alone will not cause this. if the steering and suspension is tight, as in a new vehicle, all that will be noticable is a mild pulsing at the steering wheel. fixing the rotor alone will only remedy the symptom temporarily. as the problem is the play in your steering and the reason why your rotors warp more easily. so fix the problem, by fixing the steering rack.
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 02:44 PM
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i'll be changing the rack asap, quick question that hasn't been answered above; im assuming a dc2 rack is PnP?

thanks
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People have also attributed bad axles to steering wheel shaking too
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Crazydave &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">People have also attributed bad axles to steering wheel shaking too</TD></TR></TABLE>

under braking?
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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Tyson &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

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I should have re-read the post..

sorry...

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Old Jun 18, 2007 | 04:26 PM
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How about your bearings?

Have you check that?

Did you check your caliper mounting too.. if that is look or ****-eyed.. that could cause weird issues too.


did you check the pin slides?
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 04:15 AM
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Default Re: Steering Vibrates under braking (Crazydave)

bearings would cause the car to vibrate constantly though?

As for the caliper i'll have another check tonight.

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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 07:05 AM
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there is no such thing as a perfect rotor, not even new ones. You should have your rotors resurfaced to ensure they are trully straight
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 08:02 AM
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what if the hub is not straight?
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Old Jun 19, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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I think you just answered your own question
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