Was thinking... Si w/ EX/LX/DX trunk, illegal?
I know most states require three rear brake lights on vehicles these days, and if you put the EX or lower trunk on an Si, you are left with two. It is unlikely for people to get stopped for this (cept maybe in import hell [california] ) but I just thought it up.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Demonis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know most states require three rear brake lights on vehicles these days, and if you put the EX or lower trunk on an Si, you are left with two. It is unlikely for people to get stopped for this (cept maybe in import hell [california] ) but I just thought it up.</TD></TR></TABLE>
tech yes it would be illegal, but you could easily fab something up that may even look better... i dunno? anyone do anything like this yet?
tech yes it would be illegal, but you could easily fab something up that may even look better... i dunno? anyone do anything like this yet?
City cops arent always lookin for this kind of thing atleast from what i've noticed. Seems like Troopers do though. I had a trooper stop me for having my 3rd brake light not working. He gave me a verbal and said if i didnt get it fixed i would just get pulled over again. i never replaced it and noone has said anything since.
fyi this was on my car previous to my Si
fyi this was on my car previous to my Si
If you get rear ended and the insurance adjuster looks at the car and notices its missing, they may give you a hard time about covering it. Its probably a long shot but it could happen.
Call me stupid or way to much work, but couldn't you just swap in an EX rear deck and splice the deck brake light into the other brake lights?...or do it the right way and run the appropriate wires?
I mean if somebody is swapping their EX trunk for an Si, why not swap read decks too?
I mean if somebody is swapping their EX trunk for an Si, why not swap read decks too?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Demonis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">because brake lights in the rear window is ugly...</TD></TR></TABLE>
...and a safety feature and legal?
Just swap over the deck or put an aftermarket one on, because it's gonna suck to be behind you, and it will suck to be you in an accident.
Yay!
...and a safety feature and legal?
Just swap over the deck or put an aftermarket one on, because it's gonna suck to be behind you, and it will suck to be you in an accident.
Yay!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Demonis »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I know most states require three rear brake lights on vehicles these days...</TD></TR></TABLE>
I believe it's required in all states, since 1980 when it was passed.
I believe it's required in all states, since 1980 when it was passed.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by WihaSi »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I believe it's required in all states, since 1980 when it was passed.</TD></TR></TABLE>
X2 lol actually 1986
Centre High Mount Stop Lamp (CHMSL)
In North America since 1986, in Australia since 1990, and in Europe since 1998, a central brake lamp, mounted higher than the vehicle's left and right brake lamps and called a Centre High Mount Stop Lamp (CHMSL), is also required. The CHMSL (pronounced [ˈtʃɪmzəl]) is also sometimes referred to as the centre brake lamp, 3rd brake Lamp, eye-level brake lamp, safety brake lamp, cyclops or high-level brake lamp. These lamps usually consist of a row of LEDs or small filament bulbs.
Rationale
The stop lamps on vehicles are traditionally placed in the same housing as the tail lights and turn signals. The CHMSL, which must illuminate steadily and is not permitted to flash, provides a deceleration warning to following drivers, whose view of the braking vehicle's regular stop lamps is blocked by interceding vehicles. The CHMSL also helps to disambiguate brake vs. turn signal messages in North America, where red rear turn signals identical in appearance to brake lamps are permitted.
Placement
On passenger cars, the CHMSL may be placed above the back glass, affixed to the vehicle's interior just inside the back glass, or it may be integrated into the vehicle's deck lid or into a spoiler. Other specialised fitments are sometimes seen; the Land Rover Freelander has the CHMSL on a stalk fixed to the spare wheel carrier. Trucks, vans and commercial vehicles sometimes have the CHMSL mounted to the trailing edge of the vehicle's roof. The CHMSL is required by regulations worldwide to be centred laterally on the vehicle, though ECE R48 permits lateral offset of up to 15cm if the vehicle's lateral centre is not coincident with a fixed body panel, but instead separates movable components such as doors. The Renault Master van, for example, uses a laterally offset CHMSL for this reason. The height of the CHMSL is also regulated, in absolute terms and with respect to the mounting height of the vehicle's conventional left and right brake lamps. Depending on the left and right lamps' height, the CHMSL isn't always mounted relatively very high; its lower edge may be just above the left and right lamps' upper edge.
I believe it's required in all states, since 1980 when it was passed.</TD></TR></TABLE>
X2 lol actually 1986
Centre High Mount Stop Lamp (CHMSL)
In North America since 1986, in Australia since 1990, and in Europe since 1998, a central brake lamp, mounted higher than the vehicle's left and right brake lamps and called a Centre High Mount Stop Lamp (CHMSL), is also required. The CHMSL (pronounced [ˈtʃɪmzəl]) is also sometimes referred to as the centre brake lamp, 3rd brake Lamp, eye-level brake lamp, safety brake lamp, cyclops or high-level brake lamp. These lamps usually consist of a row of LEDs or small filament bulbs.
Rationale
The stop lamps on vehicles are traditionally placed in the same housing as the tail lights and turn signals. The CHMSL, which must illuminate steadily and is not permitted to flash, provides a deceleration warning to following drivers, whose view of the braking vehicle's regular stop lamps is blocked by interceding vehicles. The CHMSL also helps to disambiguate brake vs. turn signal messages in North America, where red rear turn signals identical in appearance to brake lamps are permitted.
Placement
On passenger cars, the CHMSL may be placed above the back glass, affixed to the vehicle's interior just inside the back glass, or it may be integrated into the vehicle's deck lid or into a spoiler. Other specialised fitments are sometimes seen; the Land Rover Freelander has the CHMSL on a stalk fixed to the spare wheel carrier. Trucks, vans and commercial vehicles sometimes have the CHMSL mounted to the trailing edge of the vehicle's roof. The CHMSL is required by regulations worldwide to be centred laterally on the vehicle, though ECE R48 permits lateral offset of up to 15cm if the vehicle's lateral centre is not coincident with a fixed body panel, but instead separates movable components such as doors. The Renault Master van, for example, uses a laterally offset CHMSL for this reason. The height of the CHMSL is also regulated, in absolute terms and with respect to the mounting height of the vehicle's conventional left and right brake lamps. Depending on the left and right lamps' height, the CHMSL isn't always mounted relatively very high; its lower edge may be just above the left and right lamps' upper edge.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FBPSidan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess 2 big *** red lights on each side of the car isnt enough for someone to see.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
not when it's the government making the decision
not when it's the government making the decision
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FBPSidan »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I guess 2 big *** red lights on each side of the car isnt enough for someone to see.... </TD></TR></TABLE>
The center stop lamp ONLY comes on when you're braking. Some cars have taillights that are not bright enough in the daytime (ricer altezzas), difficult to tell if it's just running lights or brake lights, or the turn signals are bright. Since there can be so many things going on with the taillamps, I always look at the center mount lamp just to confirm that the car is stopping. They're there and designed like that for a reason.
The center stop lamp ONLY comes on when you're braking. Some cars have taillights that are not bright enough in the daytime (ricer altezzas), difficult to tell if it's just running lights or brake lights, or the turn signals are bright. Since there can be so many things going on with the taillamps, I always look at the center mount lamp just to confirm that the car is stopping. They're there and designed like that for a reason.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Ouija »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
I mean if somebody is swapping their EX trunk for an Si, why not swap read decks too?</TD></TR></TABLE>
interiors arent always black. a white EX would have tan. so in some cases that would work. nbp ftw
I mean if somebody is swapping their EX trunk for an Si, why not swap read decks too?</TD></TR></TABLE>
interiors arent always black. a white EX would have tan. so in some cases that would work. nbp ftw
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nighthawk R18 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">interiors arent always black. a white EX would have tan. so in some cases that would work. nbp ftw
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And ASM and RR!!!!
</TD></TR></TABLE>And ASM and RR!!!!
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Nighthawk R18 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea yea
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J00z damn right yea
</TD></TR></TABLE>J00z damn right yea
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