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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 08:40 AM
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Is there any difference between Short RAM intake and Cold air intake
Which one is more better? Why?

95 F22B1 CD5 4 Door
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:48 PM
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A short ram intake is shorter and the filter will sit in the engine bay near the battery sucking in air from the engine bay. It's a bit louder than the cai and costs less since it is simpler/less material.
A cold air intake is the longer one and will follow the short ram's path, but then go even further and dip down out of the engine bay, allowing it to get cooler air than the short ram.
Both of the intake systems are great and will give you gains. There is a chance of hydrolock, getting water into your engine, with the cai but this is very unlikely and you'd have to be driving through some serious amounts of water to do this... the sri however has virtually zero chance of any water getting in.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 06:08 PM
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CAI = more power
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">CAI = more power</TD></TR></TABLE>
the difference in power between a SR and a CAI is minimal, i doubt you could actually feel it.
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 10:20 PM
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Minimal depending on the motor, the more the engine is built the more power difference is between the SRI and the CAI, as the CAI power fades away from SRI. Can't feel it but more powers to the wheel. It shows on dyno charts.
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 10:16 AM
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i would definetly invest in the cold air, the short rams are good, but you could experience heatsoak, im surprised nobody addressed this, heatsoak will draw horsepower. This is why i would just go ahead and get a cai
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 10:18 AM
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and if you experience sucking up water, that'll kill your motor

heatsoak = keep your motor
water = death
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 10:44 AM
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You can make a CAI that has no risk of taking in water.

The OEM Gen 7-A 6-6 Accords are an example of this.

The OEM DC2 ITR is another example of a CAI that has no risk of taking in water.
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 11:00 AM
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yep you can get the bypass valve thing which is a good point I hadn't thought of

I was unaware that those cars had CAI's stock.

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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 12:39 PM
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What do you mean? For the DC ITR do you mean the hybrid intakes like the Mugen and Comptech?
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HondaB18 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What do you mean? For the DC ITR do you mean the hybrid intakes like the Mugen and Comptech?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No. The OEM intakes draw air from outside the engine bay. It's not any kind of ram air, but it is definitely cold air from outside the engine bay.
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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yeah on the 94-97 accords I know that the intake is partialy seperaied from the engien heat by the battery. so you take out the stock resonator, behind the bumper. there you go cold air going stright up into the intake. you can add a small hole on the bottom of the inner fender. rivit a small screen over the breather whole to help prevent debre and so forth. then get a good intake like an apexi. there you go.
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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i personally have a sri on my f22b1. i dont think i would give a cold air a second look. i was driving my rsx home in the rain for the first time and couldnt stop thinking about how much water i was sucking up.(it has a cold air) the filter was wet when i got home but the car is fine.

with the sri alone i love the sound. its very quiet during normal driving. but gets deep when you get on it. vtec sounds wicked. never experienced heatsink
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 05:09 PM
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Well the CAI on the RSX is the worst. I mean its great for doing CAI because there's a hole already, but water can get in easily.
As far on the Accord, it's better. There is very little to none open holes. And plus I live in CA, and it rarely rains. Worst come to worst, if it rains, I'll do the water bypass. But I love the CAI sound, very very deep.
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 09:11 PM
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yes, you can experience hydrolock, but look at it this way, dont drive in huge puddles in the rain, or just dont drive in the rain period, and yes the cold airs suck on rsx, look at some dyno charts, and injen makes a short ram for a rsx that creates more power than most cold airs, but this is a cold air forum, and the cold air makes a difference especially if you have few other up grades, like header and exhaust
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Old Jun 16, 2007 | 11:34 PM
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Ok CAI ups and downs....Colder air FTW....bad Comin back from nopi last year had to run like 35mph for like 3 miles till i got to a gas station....and then waited like 4-5 hours for the storm to pass to drive.....i had to keep the motor above 5k so it wouldnt stall....but still ima a strong believer in the CAI!
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Old Jun 17, 2007 | 06:12 AM
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The Honda and Acura OEM cold air intakes go through the fender well and then extend upward to make sure there is almost no chance of water intake.

The car would have to be in water up to the top of the hood, basically.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 07:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The Honda and Acura OEM cold air intakes go through the fender well and then extend upward to make sure there is almost no chance of water intake.

The car would have to be in water up to the top of the hood, basically. </TD></TR></TABLE>yes exactly thus it makes little to no sense to me to go with a CAI. also apexi with the best resualts for flow, and filtering in independent studies only makes a SRI for the 94-97 accords.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 05:53 PM
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CAI is cool.
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for the trouble stick to SRI
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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CAI FTW.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 07:22 PM
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do any intakes take up more mpg?
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 07:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by power11 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">do any intakes take up more mpg?</TD></TR></TABLE>
That happened in my car.
That's why I'm on OEM.
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 10:19 PM
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should i trade wtih my friend, my stock intake for his cold air, and he says he took out the bottom peice so water wouldnt get into it. whtas up wtih that?
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 11:20 PM
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Ok with the cold air intake as it implys u will be sucking in cold air.. Cold air going into your engine will give more power than warm air.. Have u noticed the the winter months ur car runs smoother (on a day with no ice) . This is because the cooler the air the better it reacts with gas and electric during combustion. Cold air is tightly bond together and warm air is loose. Meaning with cold air u are getting more molecules into your engine allowing for more power during combustion
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 11:30 PM
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so should i do it?
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