i just got a call from my mechanic...hes telling me that the motor i just ****** bought isnt going to work cause there is a difference in intake manifolds with the delivery of coolant?? this whole thing is ******* bullshit i guarantee the ******* is honda stupid and doesnt know what the hell hes doing...this is why i hate NJ and i dont like to bring my car to NJ mechanics...my car just happened to break down in NJ and couldnt get it towed to my mechanic in NY...im so pissed off..i was supposed to get my car back today


is this true or is the mechanic a moron??

my motor is a D16Y8 and i went to the shop yesterday and looked at everything...IMs were the same...and the motor says D16Y8 on the cam gear cover

 

just checked majestic honda to see if there is any part number difference in which there is by one number --- my motor is for a manual, the one i bought i found out is an auto, and im guessing that somehow there is a difference because by looking at diagrams it shows no difference..only difference is the part number for MT is 19565 and the AT 19564..if anyone can shine light on this, please let me know ASAP...i want my effing car back

 

Yeah, the manifolds are different between auto and manual Y8's. An auto has the IACV mounted on the throttle body where-as the manual has the IACV mounted on the back of the manifold. This would lead to coolant hose routing differences.

 

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well i guess thats good to know now, well time to track down another ******* motor

 

motor? dont get a new motor just a new intake manifold..... worst case senario use a throtle body with an iac on it and plug up the manifold coolant ports for the iac

 

thought of that already well aside from plugging up the other ports...apparently on my motor which is manual the coolant is delivered electronically whereas on an auto it is not...i personally think its bullshit..but im not there to see it so i cant really say...but id also say, get some ******* rubber tubing and make it work

 

Electronically??????? Your mechanic is trying to get $$$ out of you.

 

BTW, ive used an automtaic manifold on my d16z6. And it was also in a obd2 EK

 

like i said...im not there to see and it does sound like a load of **** to me..im going to call him now and see if they will just plug up the ports and make due....

 

all you did was plug up the ports and had no issues???

 

yes. as long as u still use an iac to control ur idle. That s wat i did

 

Something smells bad...and it ain't me.

Talk to him again and get a clearer understanding of what he means by the coolant is delivered electronically.

 

Two possibilities: The new engine is a 96-96, or it is a 99-00.

If it is a 99-00, swap the intake manifold and throttle body from your old engine onto the new one.

If it is a 96-98, swap the intake manifold and throttle body from your old engine onto the new one. Use JB Weld to plug the air injection ports on your intake manifold since the 96-98 head doesn't use them.

 

ok, heres the deal...and its what the mechanic told me...the D16Y8 motor with a manual trans is pretty much different than the motor with an auto trans in that the coolant is electronically controlled and the auto is not....i did suggest swapping parts from my motor to the new one and they said it couldnt work...so then i spoke to the mechanic who is actually working on my car (who apparently is big into hondas) and he said that he can make my motor work...he is just waiting to hear if the company is going to send me the right motor this way he doesnt have to "make" it work by changing ****...which is cool by me..and he said that if they give him some bullshit story that they cant get me another motor he said he'll make it work that he is fully capable of doing but he just wants to see if they are going to do the right thing and get me a new motor first.

so i cant be completely mad i guess whether they are telling me the truth about the coolant delivery or not..i spoke to him and he said hes waiting to make his descision if he gonna either have to make my car work..or just use the right ****

so not too sure when im getting my car back but it better work right WHEN i get it back

 

alright, just incase the scientists that are working on my car arent able to get a new motor....i want to know some **** cause im gonna go see them today...and its the reason i come to this site, im trying to learn as much as i can about my car...now i searched for it but couldnt find anything.....i know this is a dumb question cause i even know deep down its gotta be the same....for the d16y8, any year they made it...what differences can there be??? atleast from what ive stated that they told me...i mean, there really shouldnt be any reason why they cant swap the working parts from my old motor over and if there are extra coolant ports -- plug them...and if they are just a little bit further away for some reason -- get a longer coolant hose. any info would be great.

 

AUTO Y8


MANUAL Y8

 

that definitely paints the picture for me...so should i be able to just swap the IM and it should work or just make the auto IM work?

 

bump for clarity

 

man it looks like a no brainer just swap the intake manifolds and reuse your old coolant lines and replace line number 4 in the auto dia with a suitable length of hose

 

i seriously could do this myself now that i can see what the hell the difference is and now that you guys have given me insight on it...if the mechanics cant figure this one out im gonna go there and help then and see if they can take it out of the bill or something

 

i feel dumb asking this but its only cause the mechanic also said this.....is the coolant on the manual motor electronically controlled and if so what do i have to do to make all the **** on the auto work....please go easy on me, like i said im learning

 

No! Listen, that is bullshit. On all Honda motors the water pump is mechanical. I would not trust that mechanic to be able to handle this for you since he mistakenly believes this is a coolant problem when in fact it is a very small problem concerning the mounting of the Idle Air Control Valve.

The auto motor and the manual motor are EXACTLY THE SAME. Getting a whole other motor is ridiculous. The difference between those particular cars is that the autos have the IACV mounted on the throttle body, and the manual trans have the IACV mounted on the back of the intake manifold just like all the other D-series. The IACV has coolant lines going to it which can safely be bypassed but that is not relevant to your problem. Your problem is simply that you need an IACV.

You have several options. Get a throttle body with the IACV mounted to it from an auto trans equipped EX or HX (D16Y8 or D16Y5). There might be some other motors from 96-00 with the IACV on the throttle body.

Take off the intake manifold and tap and drill the holes for the IACV. This is what I did to mine.

Get an intake manifold from a manual trans equipped D16Y8.

Get an intake manifold from any D16Z6.

Get any intake manifold from a 92-95 Honda Civic.

Very simple. But whatever you do, I would have that car towed somewhere else.

 

oh man...i feel so stupid cause i knew that had to be bullshit cause exactly what you said...all water pumps are mechanical on hondas....and well i actually just got a phone call about 10 minutes ago from the mechanic, they realized that they can swap the parts from my blown motor and put them on the new one...EXACTLY what i told them to do. and now my car will either be done this afternoon or tomorrow morning. the place that sold me the motor told them that it wont void the warranty of the motor if they swap parts onto so now they are going to do it.

i very, VERY much appreciate all the help you guys gave me. and now i definitely know if there is a next time...thanks alot HT


oh and il clarify this one more time too..lol NJ mechanics dont work on my cars...my motor blew in front of a shop where i was going just to get an opinion on my trans cause thats what i thought the problem was...and the guy is a friend of the family so he gave me a good price to swap motors (600) and thats how i ended up here. my mechanic resides in Central Valley, NY -- CIM Motorsports -- little plug for that shop

but yea, once again..thanks alot HT

 

ahh.. i hope you arent paying an arm and a leg for this!

 

600 for the labor