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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 12:30 AM
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Hi guys, I'm planning on buying my friend's combo that comes with a 10 and an Alpine amp. I don't have a picture of the amp yet to show the different connectors and ask how to hook them up but I guess I have some questions. For some reason, he said the amp doesn't have connectors for the front speakers, only the rear. Now I've been reading and some people say that the fronts provide most of the sound, although, mines are only 3.5"s so I don't know. He said I can 'double up' the front and rear connections but they'll be weaker? Now I have to look at the big three upgrade. Do you guys have pictures of the process? I'm using this link http://forum.realmofexcursion....t=924 and pictures would reaaally help! Thanks in advance .





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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 01:18 AM
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you will pretty much follow that write up. I be doing one with pictures shortly. Possibly sell them as a vehicle specific kit. As far as the amp it might be a mono amp. That means it has one channel and is usually a sub amp or center channel amp. Do you know what model amp or have a picture of it. This will help us help you out better.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 01:54 PM
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Here are some pictures:





I know the ground goes to a bare metal part in the trunk but what about the others?




I don't know where this wire goes to:


I will be heading to Walmart to get a wiring kit soon.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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That is a two channel amp. It could be used to push a pair front stage speakers in stereo or be used as a mono amp for a sub. By the looks of it and the position of the screws it was used in a bridge mono set up. And thats making the amp a one channel. IF you look at the amp you will see above the speaker leads were it says bridge. You will attacth the positive from you sub wire to it and the neg wire to the negitive side.
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Old Jun 13, 2007 | 03:09 PM
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How would I connect all these wires to that sub? Thank you for your help so far.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 07:56 AM
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If you are really lazy then u can go to best buy. They charge you $45 for installation.
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 10:59 AM
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I'd like to learn this by myself as I bought the 4 gauge wire and everything already for the big three upgrade. I guess I can have my HU power the speakers and have the amp power the sub only?
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Old Jun 14, 2007 | 11:21 AM
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Yes, that would be the way to go with that amp. What kind of headunit are you using?
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 12:19 AM
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Just a crappy Jensen CD4100K or something like that. I just bought my supplies for the big three, just waiting to get an inline fuse thing for one of the three connections.

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.c...0.PDF

How would I go adjusting the Bass EQ and Gain?What about the filter and the speaker level input stuff?
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 09:57 AM
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U NEED A BETTER AMP!..maybe a 1000, or one that has like a four channels!
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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 11:23 AM
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What speakers are you running as components? With that amp and the setup that you have alluded to having I would use the amp to power the sub only. When you have better components then an upgraded headunit can power those (fronts/tweeters/rears) or you can run seperate amp for speakers and then your other for the sub.

The amp that you have isn't bad at all it's moderate and will do fine for your sub. Like Desmon said there are two wires that come out of your sub (positive/negative). Wire these into the (+/-) in your amp. Battery is where your power source goes into, remote is from the head unit, and ground is just that a ground wire.

Typically you run your ground wire from under your backseat with an eye connector screwed down. The remote powers your amp on and off. Otherwise your amp would just be on all the time. You can adjust the output of your amp on the amp itself. There should be two controls on the side. Gain/Output or something. You can adjust both of these and see how your setup sounds. Then through your headunit you can probably further adjust the sub (+ or -) depending on what your listening too.
wrx-killer-Sti eater is def the man to run things by...Desmon feel free to correct me if the above is wrong!


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Old Jun 15, 2007 | 11:58 AM
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You have a 1x140W RMS into 4 ohms amp.

What is the model number of the 10" sub, or it's continuous power handling, [RMS]?

What kind of sub box is it in, sealed or vented?

You do not need a 4ga power wire for that amp unless the lead is going to be longer then about 15'. 94
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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The 4ga wire is for my big three upgrade. fcm, the info can be found here:

http://akamaipix.crutchfield.c...0.PDF
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Old Jun 21, 2007 | 05:17 PM
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That is the amps owners guide, I do not need that, I need make and model number for the sub it is driving, and if the sub is in a sealed or vented box. 94
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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 12:06 AM
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It seems that I don't have a wire for remote? Also, I connect the line out to the amp?



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Old Jun 23, 2007 | 12:42 AM
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tap it to the ignition - red
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Use the dark blue first. Its the power antenna wire. If the radio shuts off when you put in a cd then use the red accesory wire. The reason for this is because if you shut off the radio. The amp might play pick up noise or a long thummping noise if you turn off the radio from the headunit.
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wrx-killer-Sti eater &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Use the dark blue first. Its the power antenna wire. If the radio shuts off when you put in a cd then use the red accesory wire. The reason for this is because if you shut off the radio. The amp might play pick up noise or a long thummping noise if you turn off the radio from the headunit.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i concur
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Old Jun 24, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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Hi guys I got everything connected and CDs play fine but how come I can't really hear my MP3 player anymore? I have it hooked onto the AUX connection and when I try to use it, I can barely hear anything. Let me know, thanks.
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 11:55 AM
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Are you sure it's plugged into the aux input and not one of the outputs, plugging into an output would result in very low volume. 94
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Old Jun 25, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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Yeah I'm pretty sure that it's plugged into the input. Someone recommended a line level amplifier like this:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Increase-P...wItem


do you this it'll help?
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You should not need it, however it can't hurt. 94
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Old Jun 26, 2007 | 01:06 AM
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Hmm this problem and my door lock remote problem fixed themselves today...what could cause it? Hope it's not a short somewhere...*knocks on wood*
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Old Jun 27, 2007 | 12:10 AM
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Hey guys how can I get the sub to hit a little cleaner and tighter? I like the sound my dad's stock '99 Camry makes but not mines -_-. The box looks to be a sealed one, maybe the wood is coming apart? Would the Bass EQ **** have something to do with this? The setting is already -6 (max) on my HU and it's a bitch to unscrew the amp to adjust the gain and such.

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by fcm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> You have a 1x140W RMS into 4 ohms amp.

What is the model number of the 10" sub, or it's continuous power handling, [RMS]?

What kind of sub box is it in, sealed or vented?

You do not need a 4ga power wire for that amp unless the lead is going to be longer then about 15'. 94</TD></TR></TABLE> OK, we know what amp you have, we now know you may have a sealed box, but you still have not said what sub you have and... " http://akamaipix.crutchfield.c...0.PDF" that does not tell us what sub you have. 94
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