Just wanted to mention that, torque wins races not horsepower.

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Yes, but horsepower is how "useful" that torque is. Torque at higher RPM can do more work...

 

True but as a baseline make your goal a high torque engine.
I am just trying to say, if you are having trouble choosing between the B16 and any B18, go with the B18.....you can always add a VTEC head to the 18B.

Or just save yourself the trouble and buy a B20

 

Actually, the person across the line first wins races...

 

Just don't get an H22 =P

 

Ok, who would win?

H23 equipped CRX or....B16a equipped CRX?

 

whose oil control rings would last longer..... ?

 

why not get a H22?

 

H22s are just screwy motors. Absolutely everything is "weird" about them.

 

>>Just wanted to mention that, torque wins races not horsepower.<<

...then no Honda would ever win a race...

 

I'm just doing a comparaison between two motors with same Hp numbers.
h23: 160 hp
B16a: 160hp

But obviously, one have much more low end torque.

 

this is a very very true statement.

 

Can you explain more about this?

 

i think that the h23 equipped crx would pull on the b16 crx. i would think that because it has alot more torque. but if im wrong...please correct me.
the h23 makes around 156 torque to the crank and about 130 to the wheels and the b16a makes around 115ish? torque to the crank. so my guess would be with the h23.

 

B16 revs soo much higher though. It'd be a close race.

 

yea i would like to know more about this too?

 

eh. right. which is why the fastest all motor crx has a h22 in it. because its so 'screwy'.

 

That doesn't make them any less screwy! somebody is bitter.

can't make the fastest all motor crx with a b16! hehe.

motor geometry, sleeves, cable shifter tranny, awkward mounting position, odd factory fuel and ignition maps in h22 ecus... it's all screwy

 

Ehh, I would say moreover driver skill wins races, not torque. Ive smoked my fair share of V8's that have gobs of torque.
Power/torque is nothing unless you can properly tune and setup a suspension for the ride down the 1/4, and be able to pilot the car too.....

By the way, I like this forum!!

 

I think turbine engines are the most "Screwy"

 

so.... you're saying we should all transplant diesel engines into our hondas????

 

that would be funny to pull up next to a diesel honda the sound of a diesel engine and honda just dont go together for me

 

HorsePower is derived from Torque. The equation is torque x RPM / 5200 = HP or something like that. They are both just a way of measuring power. If you have lots of Torque, you will have lots of Horsepower. Unless your engine redlines too low... If you look at that equation, you should notice that Torque and HP will be equal at, or around, 5200 RPM. Torque wins races?... odd, The H22 and the H23 have VERY similar Torque peaks... Yet my VTEC Prelude friends can easily beat me in my Prelude Si. Why? Because their torque peaks higher, which means more horsepower.

 

h23 in a crx will be a low 14 high 13sec car cax with a b16a1 mid 15's-high 14's

i ran a high 14's low 15's with a h23 in a 4door accord

 

If you can't get into 14's with a b16a equipped crx you've got a serious problem!