i have $1600 and i just got a job, a place called cityspeed.com sells the 19t greddy kit for $1700.

I orginally wanted to save up to about 3 grand or so i could buy a turbo kit pieced togehter with for my stock y8, and i eventually wanted to buy a d16z6 and build the bottom end.

The thing is, i really have no idea how to install a turbo, and i figured the greddy kit would be easier.

I know u need like a fuel pump and a few other things to piece a kit togher.. but the greddy kit doesnt come with this stuff? That confuses me?

my goal overall is to have 200-230whp on my stock motor, then have maybe low boost be around 300whp and high boost at 400whp if i ever build a new motor.

I understand what goes into building a kit, but putting it together and stuff .. i'm a super n00b, what would u guys suggest?

 

Do alot of research, and search before you make threads like this.

 

piecing a kit is more work but kits usually cost more so you should go from there,and a little fyi nothing is cheap when going turbo.

 

Just look for some use kit on here. $1,600 is more then enough for a kit and a tune. You just have to know how to look for it. The one thing you don't want to cheap out is the tune.

 

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i have been researching .. for about a 2 months now. The only reason i'm afraid to piece it together is because i have no experience installing any of the components. Now i know these write ups online tell you what to do, but there is always something that i'm unsure about or something goes wrong.

For example, my uncle was suposed to put on my suspension for like 2 weeks now(he has air tools, and hes a mechanic), so i finally got fed up and i was going to do it last nite with normal hand tools and some wd 40 and pb blaster. I put the car on jackstands, took off my wheels, tried to loosen a bolt, and it wasnt happening. People told me to torch the bolt when i asked on here, but i think i'd expletive something up.

^ that was just an example of how i think things are easy, but then there is a problem that i dont know how to fix because i have no experience with installation. This is why i was thinking about just buying the greddy kit since its a bolt on, although i rather piece together a kit, and i have a pretty good idea of everything i would purchase, but the installation is where i have trouble. I dont want to order $1600 worth of turbo goodies and then have them sit because i can't install everything properly.

Do you guys get what im tryin to say?

but on top of all of this, i really want to try and put one on my car so i can learn how to do it

 

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i have been researching .. for about a 2 months now. The only reason i'm afraid to piece it together is because i have no experience installing any of the components. Now i know these write ups online tell you what to do, but there is always something that i'm unsure about or something goes wrong.

For example, my uncle was suposed to put on my suspension for like 2 weeks now(he has air tools, and hes a mechanic), so i finally got fed up and i was going to do it last nite with normal hand tools and some wd 40 and pb blaster. I put the car on jackstands, took off my wheels, tried to loosen a bolt, and it wasnt happening. People told me to torch the bolt when i asked on here, but i think i'd expletive something up.

^ that was just an example of how i think things are easy, but then there is a problem that i dont know how to fix because i have no experience with installation. This is why i was thinking about just buying the greddy kit since its a bolt on, although i rather piece together a kit, and i have a pretty good idea of everything i would purchase, but the installation is where i have trouble. I dont want to order $1600 worth of turbo goodies and then have them sit because i can't install everything properly.

Do you guys get what im tryin to say?

but on top of all of this, i really want to try and put one on my car so i can learn how to do it

 

There is some use greddy turbo kit that is floating around here for a decent price. And yes, you are right about running into problems. Even a complete turbo kit can give you problems if you don't have the right tools, but we all got to start somewhere.

 

well i mean .. say i bought dsm injectors, a t3 turbo manifold with a t3 48/60 a/r, intercooler and piping, bov, wastegate, downpipe, could buying that separately really be much idfferent than the greddy kit??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pjr710 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i mean .. say i bought dsm injectors, a t3 turbo manifold with a t3 48/60 a/r, intercooler and piping, bov, wastegate, downpipe, could buying that separately really be much idfferent than the greddy kit??</TD></TR></TABLE>

oh yes. you can build a much much much better kit than that greddy crap. i personally dont like any of greddy's stuff, but thats just me. id rather pay more to build myself a kit and get the things I WANT, then have to settle for what i get.

 

yea i understand .. i rather do that too .. but the question was asking if everything would bolt up the same way as the greddy kit would .. as long as i didn't buy stuff taht was made for a different car

what i mean by that is: if i pieced together a kit, and bought a greddy kit, is there a good chance i would have little to no problems bolting up a pieced kit?

 

not necessarily. people like spoolinperformance and full-race and peak-boost all have bad *** kits. they all match up. just be careful at what you buy. just look, do some research, and dont buy the first thing you see unless you know its a 'cant-beat-it' deal

 

^^ Every kit is made to fit its own. Every set-up is different. Every IC piping maybe route differently because of its intercooler size, shape, and depending on the inlet & outlet. But it can work if you make it to work.

 

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I'm sure those kit you mention are way over his price range. Don't get me wrong, they are some badass turbo kit if money is not an issue.

 

im sorry but if you cannot simply put on suspension, as well as "break" a bolt, i dont think you should even attempt to install a turbo kit.. no offense but leave it to someone who knows what they are doing..

dont get me wrong, its great to get the hands on and learn, but, a turbo kit is a pretty big step especially if you cannot install suspension or simply breaking the bolt loose..

 

dood i have been researching for 1 1/2 years now and still dont have a kit on my car. but its going on some time early to mid june now. just to give you a thought of how much researching you will need. i dont have any hands on experience towards this but i will have it all planned out. there are so many questions you still need to ask yourself.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by big-cat &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">dood i have been researching for 1 1/2 years now and still dont have a kit on my car. but its going on some time early to mid june now. just to give you a thought of how much researching you will need. i dont have any hands on experience towards this but i will have it all planned out. there are so many questions you still need to ask yourself.</TD></TR></TABLE>

let me know how it goes .. and how hard it was.

and about the suspension, yea well i didnt have all day to install it. If the bolts came off I would have had no problem, but the problem was they were rusted over the last 10 years .. so i could not budge them

some guy is selling is 19t kit on hereh for $1200 its so tempting to buy. But do you guys think i should wait? I feel like this offer is good and im gunna regret passing it up

 

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let me know how it goes .. and how hard it was.

and about the suspension, yea well i didnt have all day to install it. If the bolts came off I would have had no problem, but the problem was they were rusted over the last 10 years .. so i could not budge them

some guy is selling is 19t kit on hereh for $1200 its so tempting to buy. But do you guys think i should wait? I feel like this offer is good and im gunna regret passing it up</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have a td04 with hf manifold and adapter i will give you for 100 bucks. the turbo is in great shape the manifold is in good shape and the adapter is a bit ugly but still strong. if you want pics i can get them to you of everything. as well as the turbo spinning off of compressed air.

 

pjr710

if you look long enough things will start to make sense

if you piece together a kit properly NO you will not have fitment issues. just get a manifold for your engine (whichever type you want) that is a/c compatable or not depending what you want and make sure it has a T3 flange and get a T3/T4 turbo then get a intercooler and piping that go together

everything on a turbo kit requires some fab. just contact the companies you want to buy from and they can tell you if it will work or not.

tunertoys etc makes some bad *** manifolds at a good price.

stay away from ebay **** is the best advice when it comes to the turbo and turbo manifold

ebay piping and intercoolers are probably ok.


used wastegates and blowoff valves are ok.

 

A turbo "kit" does not mean that <u>everything</u> you need will be included. In fact i guarantee it wont come with everything.

Before buying anything you need to know what part is what and why it is there and how it works. Just by knowing the fundamentals everything will start to fall together and make sence. By the time you are ready to install, you wil be saying "ok i need to change the manifold i dont like it anymore" "turbo is too small for my goals" "i want a bigger downpipe" "better wastegate" etc etc etc

Youl end up peacing it together in the end. Just to give you an idea of what you will need:

turbo
manifold
downpipe
wastegate
blow off valve (and flange if piping doesnt have it allready)
intercooler
intercooler piping
oil feed/return lines
oil pan tapped
injectors
tuning program(do NOT get vafc)
fuel pressure regulator
gauges

Thats pretty much it. I might have forgotten a few things, but i did right this is line 2 min so excuse me. Take your time, do it right. You will thank yourself in the end.


And ya, get more experience taking your car apart and putting it back together. Common sence is your best tool. This bolt takes that off, that bolt takes this off then that one, so on and so on.

 

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Before buying anything you need to know what part is what and why it is there and how it works. Just by knowing the fundamentals everything will start to fall together and make sence. By the time you are ready to install, you wil be saying "ok i need to change the manifold i dont like it anymore" "turbo is too small for my goals" "i want a bigger downpipe" "better wastegate" etc etc etc

Youl end up peacing it together in the end. Just to give you an idea of what you will need:

turbo
manifold
downpipe
wastegate
blow off valve (and flange if piping doesnt have it allready)
intercooler
intercooler piping
oil feed/return lines
oil pan tapped
injectors
tuning program(do NOT get vafc)
fuel pressure regulator
gauges

Thats pretty much it. I might have forgotten a few things, but i did right this is line 2 min so excuse me. Take your time, do it right. You will thank yourself in the end.


And ya, get more experience taking your car apart and putting it back together. Common sence is your best tool. This bolt takes that off, that bolt takes this off then that one, so on and so on.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i have been researching long enough to know exactly what i need and what everything does. I would only buy stuff that would work together... i dont plan on buying hmt **** and having to fab stuff, b/c i also want to keep a/c.

i havent really started shoppping for stuff yet, but if i could piece everything i need together for 1600, which i believe i can, i will. I just want to make sure i'm not gunna get assfucked when it comes time for me to put everything together. You say take this bolt out, then put it back in, if only it were that easy...but it never is. That is why i'd like to know if i would be able to complete installation with the very little experience i have.

 

If you do Know what is on a turbo set up. then start to quotate what you will need if plan on piece. if not i don´t think you actually could piece a turbo kit for that. probably so. but get a good one for once. save some more money. Keep asking-researching and its fun to do it your self. if you got stuck with something. i know for shure you will find help here. you are not the only one that wants to do this. so its been posted for shure. I have done many thing to my car and i got the help here. very usefull dont be afraid and try it. I have not install mine yet but i have all the pieces just have map and boost left. and start to put everything together.

 

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Im telling you right now, YOU will not be able to peace together a complete kit for 1600 withouth HMT "****".

Your best bet with your limited experience is going with the greddy kit. And yes it actually is as easy as taking this and that bolt off, <u>especially</u> when dealing with suspension work. good luck

 

heres what i figure. I'd piece together a kit with new and used parts:

log mani - $200
t3 60 trim .48/.63 - 425
downpipe/dumptube - 300?
charge piping - 100
intercooler - 100
bov - 220
wastegate - 220
fuel pump - 90
dsm injectors - 50
p28 w/ harness - 200
map sensor - 35
golden eagle vaccum thing? (don't know what it is or how much it is) - 50?

=1770

+tune = 300
+guages ~ 150?

=$2220

Sound about right? or am i being naive? and am i missing anything i should know about .. or should i take something off?

 

There is oil lines, couplers, clamps, some resistor for the dsm injectors, taping oil pan, etc. Basically, you have all the main things down just need those little things. I'm pretty sure you can find somebody around your state that can come and help you if you just ask them. People do it all the time. That way you can watch, learn, and give a helping hand as they teach you too.

 

^ and...

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pjr710 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">heres what i figure. I'd piece together a kit with new and used parts:

log mani - $200
t3 60 trim .48/.63 - 425
downpipe/dumptube - 300?
charge piping - 100+100
intercooler - 100+100
bov - 220
wastegate - 220could get used ones for cheaper
fuel pump - 90
dsm injectors - 50+50, if you do that please get them cleaned, 1 clogged injector and motor goes bye bye
p28 w/ harness - 200
map sensor - 35
golden eagle vaccum thing? (don't know what it is or how much it is) - 50? vaccum manifold

=1770

+tune = 300most likely more
+guages ~ 150?boost,wideband,oil pressure will run you more than 150, more like 400-450, then again wideband is not NEEDED but recomended for sure

=$2220

Sound about right? or am i being naive? and am i missing anything i should know about .. or should i take something off?</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would also recomend a clutch. comp stg 2 would be perfect for your set up. Thats another 300-350.

This **** adds up man. Rule of thumb, always double your estimated costs.

Not to mention, oil, coolant, tools, vaccum lines, fittings, oil filter, rags, towels, beer , etc etc