Every now and then the shift position lights on the dash (P,R,D,D3, 2,or 1) don't light up. I have the service manual, and tried the self diagnosis thing, but it doesn't seem to be doing anything. The tranny shifts fine, just the lights don't work all the time. Anyone have experience with this?

 

no that's new for me sorry.....

 

what about the shift position switch?

i know thats not the proper phrase for it but, i think its located somewhere within the shifter console.

 

I'm hoping someone has experienced this problem, and has a particular cause for it. Don't want to start taking my interior apart searching for an intermittent problem.

 

Do all of them not light up? or just some? If it is just one or two it might be a bulb. There are light bulbs behind the indicators. Sometimes they burn out, it could be that the filiment is hanging there, with the right jolt it contacts again and works.... That would be the cheapest and easiest thing to check first.

fiveten

 

When they don't work, none of them work. When they do, they all do (not bulbs). Sometimes the lights (P and D) will light up when the key is turned to position II, but when I start the engine, they go out. ??????

 

Check the bulb it could be loose.

 

It's not the bulbs, believe me. All 6 bulbs don't get loose, then tighten up again at the same time. When they don't work, all six lights don't work (P,R,D,D3,2,and 1), not just one or two.

 

I agree it is not the bulbs. It actually has leds... The pcm gets the gear select signal from the gear position switch, it tells the gauge controller wich led to illuminate. It could be several things.... cluster, pcm or range switch.

 

From what I've read in the Helm manual, it's probably the range switch. I'll be checking it out this weekend. Thanks for the suggestions, fiveten.

 

I looked on the Majestic Honda website to get a price for the range switch, but all I could find is position sensor. Is this the same part? #26 in the illustration

http://www.hondaautomotivepart...V6%29

 

if the bulbs/LEDs are connected in series they could all go out and come on at the same time. im not sure how they are wired however

 

I reciently had my tranny rebuilt and when i got the car back thoesd lights were screwed up. Mine goes P fine, N only in between changes if you put it in N it wont come on, D wont come on unless i wiggle the shifter, 3 nothing, 2&1 fine. Its weird but i know it has to do with what they did cause i never had the problem before.

 

5spdcoupe, They are wired in parallel on the cluster pcb. There is a microcontroller that communicates serially with the PCM. The Pcm tells the gauge controller wich led to turn on. The PCM gets its signal from the range/position switch.

Lucid317, You had your shift cable out of adjustment.

BLKFLSH, Yes it is the position switch. Before you uy it I would make sure that it is the range sw. There are faults the the pcm can detect and set diagnostic trouble codes for. If you do not have a check engine light it is likely that the problem is in the PCM or GCM. You will need to do some testing to find out.

 

In the service manual there is a self diagnostic for the cluster (involves turning lights on and off while holding the button down). The lights were working at the time, so maybe next time they don't work, I will try again. I think the PCM is doing it's job, because the lights work (come on for 2 seconds) when the key is turned to II position. It's after I start the engine, the lights don't work. Maybe that is when the signal starts coming from the range switch.????

PS: The reverse lights do come on even when the cluster lights don't, if that means anything.Thanks.