Hey whats up i'm selling my turbo kit and lookin to go all motor h22a. . . just seein of any sugestions on the swap. Pros Cons? I'm looking to get the complete chang over from hmotorsonline .

 

Just get the longblock for the h22.

Go h2b, it will only cost a little more and you'll have an easier swap, hydro trans, better gearing, no need for cutoms axles, and 5-7lbs off of the whole swap.

Overall just FYI the swap will be 20-25lbs heavier than a b. Nothing to worry about.

I'll ask a mod to move this to GDD.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just get the longblock for the h22.

Go h2b, it will only cost a little more and you'll have an easier swap, hydro trans, better gearing, no need for cutoms axles, and 5-7lbs off of the whole swap.

Overall just FYI the swap will be 20-25lbs heavier than a b. Nothing to worry about.

I'll ask a mod to move this to GDD.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Ek forever guy, you speak very highly of the H2B, do you have one on your car? Curious to know what your personal experience is with that setup, if its a dd/auto-x/drag/etc?. I'm debating on doing an H2B as well, just waiting on more funds before I make my final decision. I presume the stock axles and suspension can withstand the power output from the H2B, if swapping into a 91 DA persay?

 

I was set on the gsr motor for a while actually. But I've driven two h2b's now and I'm in the process of saving up for it. Right now I'm definately not in a financial or time situation to do a swap. I'm starting college this fall and I'm having trouble finding work.

But I like it because it's cheap, reliable, and make K swap owners go

The two I drove were a moving experience. The two fastest honda's I've ever driven. I did some HPD while I lived in phoenix, and once I get a stable job I plan on doing it here in GA. Honda-tuning magazine wrote an article about h2b, they said they think in many ways it's a fantastic HPDE or autocross setup.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I was set on the gsr motor for a while actually. But I've driven two h2b's now and I'm in the process of saving up for it. Right now I'm definately not in a financial or time situation to do a swap. I'm starting college this fall and I'm having trouble finding work.

But I like it because it's cheap, reliable, and make K swap owners go

The two I drove were a moving experience. The two fastest honda's I've ever driven. I did some HPD while I lived in phoenix, and once I get a stable job I plan on doing it here in GA. Honda-tuning magazine wrote an article about h2b, they said they think in many ways it's a fantastic HPDE or autocross setup. </TD></TR></TABLE>


I can only imagine the H2B's power potential from stock or mild to fully built form, I get tingles down my spine thinking of this swap in my DA.

 

Also curious, b-series vtec motors have high rev rpm range, doesn't the h22's have a redline around 7500rpm?. Not saying its being ricer to rev to like 8 or 9, but does it matter if the h22 doesnt have a high rev rpm range in stock form like the other b-series vtec motors?

 

Never heard of a h2b . . . .? explain

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silver88crxsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Never heard of a h2b . . . .? explain </TD></TR></TABLE>

H22A motor w/b-series tranny, and the use of an adapter kit that allows the H-motor to bolt up to the b-series tranny. About 5lbs or so lighter then a full H22a swap.

 

ic i have never done much with h series just b so thats why i decided to go with it. Like to learn new stuff.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by silver88crxsi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ic i have never done much with h series just b so thats why i decided to go with it. Like to learn new stuff.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The H2B has got me more interested in modifying my Honda then ever before.

 

h2b is the hype right know. i personally dont have an h2b setup, but i do have a full h22 swap in my 97 ek. i love the power it has, but if you do go full h22 swap, axles will be a problem for sure

 

That's one of the reasons I like the h22, I don't have to rev it to get power. Its torquey from Idle up.

The first one I drove at tsp in Phoenix was bone stock and I could be cruising at 45, drop it in 2nd and chirp tires. With bfg drags.

h2b really takes out all the negative aspects of the regular h22 swap, and adds some bennies.

h22 requires:
1) Hacking of the firewall to run cables for shifter
2) the motor is more in front of the axle thus creating more understeer, (same thing with any motor any weight positioned more aft of the axles)
3) use of the crap h tranny and it's long gears. H tranny doesn't like to rev.

h2b:
1) better gearing
2) no need for custom axles
3) weight is more directly over the axles.
4) more aftermarket transmission parts
5) you do have to grind the block a little. it takes about 5 minutes with a makita and doesn't affect anything other then easier motor fitment.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by rpared01 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">h2b is the hype right know. i personally dont have an h2b setup, but i do have a full h22 swap in my 97 ek. i love the power it has, but if you do go full h22 swap, axles will be a problem for sure</TD></TR></TABLE>

Its the hype alright , but my only concern is, if the stock suspension and axles, say on my 91 DA, can withstand the power output of the H2B.

 

on any quick car you'll want good suspension, tires, and axles. It's part of the game.

You don't need amazing axles or anything, just ones in good condition.

 

But there's the risk of snapping axles the way H22's do to like eg's and other civics correct? With the full h22 swap not H2B though.

 

yes, regular h22 swaps are notorious for breaking axles. It's not an issue with the h2b.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes, regular h22 swaps are notorious for breaking axles. It's not an issue with the h2b.</TD></TR></TABLE>

It's not an issue with H2B's due to a different tranny and the subtracted weight, I presume?

 

Weight doesn't play so much of a factor. It's how the engine sits.

Snap rings on h22's aren't anything great. And the B tranny is just better.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Weight doesn't play so much of a factor. It's how the engine sits.

Snap rings on h22's aren't anything great. And the B tranny is just better.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Interesting, I needa save some more dough, this H2B is getting to me like a bird on my shoulder.

 

^ It's really not much more, I consider it about even for the less work/fabrication that's involved. Tranny's are cheaper, axles are cheaper, but all the money you saved goes towards the h2b kit.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">^ It's really not much more, I consider it about even for the less work/fabrication that's involved. Tranny's are cheaper, axles are cheaper, but all the money you saved goes towards the h2b kit. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I can only imagine, and if you have connections for everything, the swap will be a piece of cake.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by VTECth1s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I can only imagine, and if you have connections for everything, the swap will be a piece of cake.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, my budget build still includes a NEW h2b kit, and a motor from Hmotors.



I'll have to make a pricing list for a locally sourced h2b with a used kit.

 

where can i get a h2b kit at ? web site ?? how much

 

Look in the sponsor marketplace.

The two companies I know of are Quartersports drag, and Evolution motorsports.

Both are H-T sponsors and have websites easily found by google.