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Old May 20, 2007 | 01:16 PM
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Just wondering what yall think is a better choice, having a custom turbo kit put on a d15b7 or should I go with the b18 swap? Any info would help before I dish out the money.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 01:25 PM
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everybodys gonna have a different opinion. but i say swap
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Old May 20, 2007 | 01:37 PM
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before i give my opinion, i assume that your d15b7 is stock all the way around, correct? good thing about the d15b7 is that it has 16 valves as opposed to 8, but the best thing yet is a swap, then down the road turbo.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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It all depends on your financial situation. Boosting a d will be half the cost of a good swap, and will run harder too. (depending on the tune and quality of your parts)
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Old May 20, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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what are you looking to do? just want a bit more power on the street and dont want to spend to much money? auto X? drag racing and want as much power as your heart desires?
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Old May 20, 2007 | 01:53 PM
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more time than money= turbo
more money than time=swap
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Old May 20, 2007 | 02:01 PM
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Personally I'd do the B7-T.. but just because I wouldnt want to get caught without a turbo under my hood.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 02:07 PM
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turbo sohc all the way... just my opinion
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Old May 20, 2007 | 02:09 PM
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Yes it's a totaly stock motor and I'm really just looking for more power on the street than anything.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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ive honestly never driven in a boosted d. but i know i saw a semi built z6 boosted run and it was sure quick. but i love my gsr.. its up to you.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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yes if your looking for more power on the street i highly recomend a turbo D-series, if it were auto X i would say a swap and if it were for a drag raceing car i would say swap but your just looking for more power street wise, then the best bang for your buck is to boost a stock D.

faster and cheaper than most swaps.actually faster/cheaper than all swaps.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 02:31 PM
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^^Amen! Preach it brother!
Building the SOHC Empire one car at a time.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 03:33 PM
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I think this is how this goes, correct me if I'm wrong:

More time than money- Swap
More money than time- Turbo
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Old May 20, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM EJ2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think this is how this goes, correct me if I'm wrong:

More time than money- Swap
More money than time- Turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>

I'm gona have to disagree with you on this one. People do junk yard turbo's pushing 250+ hp for under $1000.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 03:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DesioMedia &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I'm gona have to disagree with you on this one. People do junk yard turbo's pushing 250+ hp for under $1000.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yep, and there are also people with ls motors and b16 tranny's for $1200-1500.

Ls with a good tranny is actually an astounding daily driver setup. If I was anxious to do a dohc swap I'd do that. I drove one and it's very impressive for a stock ls.

You'd be surprised what good gearing will do.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 03:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wound tight &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes it's a totaly stock motor and I'm really just looking for more power on the street than anything. </TD></TR></TABLE>

How much more power ?
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Old May 20, 2007 | 04:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDM EJ2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I think this is how this goes, correct me if I'm wrong:

More time than money- Swap
More money than time- Turbo</TD></TR></TABLE>

WOW , what i had just said but right

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Felliph3 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">more time than money= turbo
more money than time=swap</TD></TR></TABLE>


And you said it wrong too....

I say he makes himself a turbo from the junkyard.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 05:01 PM
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B swaps and turbos can be done for about the same price.

It's not an issue of money, it's more an issue of time, reliability of the stock motor, and personal preference.
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Old May 20, 2007 | 05:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">B swaps and turbos can be done for about the same price.

It's not an issue of money, it's more an issue of time, reliability of the stock motor, and personal preference.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly, I don't think a junkyard build would be good for this guy. If your asking these types of questions I just don't see it happening for cheap, and being reliably
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Old May 20, 2007 | 06:53 PM
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I know I'm not going to get outragious hp numbers out of the d15 but I was told about putting a v-tec head on it to give it some more hp on top of the turbo. Also no I don't want a junkyard build I need it done right and reliable.
Thanks for the input so far!
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Old May 20, 2007 | 06:57 PM
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Just out of curiosity would a remote turbo be better?
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Old May 20, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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i'd say swap. it will tide you over for now and you can piece together a nice turbo kit instead of some hoopty one for a motor that im assuming has a whole bunch of miles on it. just my honest opinion
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Old May 20, 2007 | 06:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by wound tight &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just out of curiosity would a remote turbo be better?</TD></TR></TABLE>

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I've helped with 2 junkyard builds, my friend anthony just swapped out his turbo after running a dsm turbo for 25,000 miles.

All turbo's are reliable, just rebuild the turbo if it looks like it needs it, and get a tune.

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Old May 21, 2007 | 03:30 PM
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junk yard turbo doesnt mean it wont be reliable, it will prob be more reliable than most because those turbo's were made to last(they had them on production cars) the only prob with a junk yard turbo build is........well its not the prettiest thing out there i mean you can clean it up a little but it will never be that pretty, like a new one, though new things get old and turn ugly...... that is life. if your going turbo D dont swap the head.

how far do you travel every day to your job? a swap will deff be less bang for buck but possibly a bit more reliable unless your tuner is good at tuneing. if he is they should be nearly the same in reliability and longevity(depending on how much you beat on it.) it all vary's

how do you usually drive? how far away is your job?

if you do a turbo you are going to double your whp(atleast it is deff possible to safely).

p.s. i have an extra tdo4 if anybody is looking for one with an hf manifold and adapter flange that i will give away for like $50 plus shipping( can get pics if needed, everything is in good shape the adapter flange isnt that pretty but it will get the job done and it would need 2 gaskets and some nuts and bolts).
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Old May 21, 2007 | 04:13 PM
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I say you just get a b18b and a b16/gsr tranny.

Get a feel for a dohc motor. Then boost that. A lot more potential with the higher displacement.
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