ok... so heres tha deal... we jus got the stock h22 swap in the 2000si

its making 155whp with a stock header an tiny stock exhaust... bolt ons would easily make 160-180 rite?? ok.....

we start doing pulls with the fans all over the intake an engine bay, and notice the power went up somewhat. so we get the bright idea to hook up the Air line used here at the shop,for our air tools. OK long story short a air blower with a long rubber hose hooked directly into the intake manifold... this should create boost pressure?? after all its moving more air into the engine. so... we do a 3rd gear run an to our amazement ... LOL!! trq went up an so did horsepower. call me stupid or flame me..... i dont care we got bored so w/e SCREW YOUR LEAF BLOWERS!! we got an Air hose!!

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1st pull engine was without air hose, 2nd an 3rd ar with the air hose connected to the intake manifold.

 

lol interesting, new concepts, ive tried dry ice near the intake to cool the air going in and it added a few hp ( now thats a real cold air intake system)

 

lol. I am not going to flame or anything but... wasnt that a risky thing to do? I am surprised you did get those numbers. I would assume... I am definitely and by far no expert but... if you did push air directly in the manifold, it definitely would be like boost but... without the air going through the map sensors and stuff...wouldnt the car have starved for fuel and or spark?? Just a thought/question.

 

Sorry not an engineer or chemist but,

Would compressed air have the same molecules as say natural air. And isn't compressed air normally hotter than normal air.

Would a turbo and air compressor be the same with the only difference being one (turbo) is spun by exhaust and has no holdtank other than charge piping and the other (compressor) get spun by an electric motor and has a huge holding tank?

Interesting, now you can bag your car and run the motor off one huge *** compressor.

Wait til the show car guys figure this out.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sauceja &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Would compressed air have the same molecules as say natural air.</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes, as far as the AIR goes. But compressed air often has different humidity levels, and there's usually compressor oil in there too.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sauceja &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And isn't compressed air normally hotter than normal air.</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes and no. It depends...
The action of compressing the air will heat it up. So as it comes directly from the compressor it's hot. The storage tank gives it some time to cool off, then it's not so hot. And most big compressors have some kind of cooler.

The action of expanding the air cools it. So if you have a huge tank full of compressed air that's had a week to cool down to room temperature, then releasing it will result in cold air coming out of the hose.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sauceja &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Would a turbo and air compressor be the same with the only difference being one (turbo) is spun by exhaust and has no holdtank other than charge piping and the other (compressor) get spun by an electric motor and has a huge holding tank?</TD></TR></TABLE>Exactly.
Well, almost exactly. A typical air compressor can't supply a large enough volume of air, so it needs the storage tank. A typical compressor side of a turbocharger can't produce as much pressure as a normal air compressor.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sauceja &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Interesting, now you can bag your car and run the motor off one huge *** compressor.

Wait til the show car guys figure this out.</TD></TR></TABLE>Lets wait & see if they ever figure out how many horsepower it takes to run the proper-size compressor...