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Old May 16, 2007 | 04:55 PM
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how much hp will i get and would it be worth it to take off my p/s. i jus took off my a/c yesterday?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 05:02 PM
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ac reduces about 3-7 horses/2-5 miles to the gallon when running. idk about power steering though.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 05:18 PM
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The dyno results I've seen for a B-series indicate a gain of between 4-7 whp from removing the power steering. D-series results should be reasonably similar. Gains from from removing the A/C would be negligible, since the A/C compressor has a clutch that keeps it from engaging while the system is switched off.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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Likely not worth the headache and lack of A/c unless it's a fulltime track car.

But for me, I'd like to have it on my track car. I loathe being hot.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 05:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FOOLS_Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much hp will i get and would it be worth it to take off my p/s. i jus took off my a/c yesterday? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Why would you take off your AC? I woulda kept that if anything. I had a EJ2 with no AC last summer and it sucked.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Gains from from removing the A/C would be negligible, since the A/C compressor has a clutch that keeps it from engaging while the system is switched off. </TD></TR></TABLE>

idk about it being negligible cause i felt a little umph under the pedal. explain more in depth into the last line you had. i took off the whole compressor, a/c radiator, fan, all lines, and belt. i thought i got some hp.

is there anything special that i need to do in order to remove my p/s?
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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You will need a manual steering rack or you have to loop the steering hose back onto itself.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FOOLS_Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">idk about it being negligible cause i felt a little umph under the pedal. explain more in depth into the last line you had. i took off the whole compressor, a/c radiator, fan, all lines, and belt. i thought i got some hp.

is there anything special that i need to do in order to remove my p/s?</TD></TR></TABLE>

The A/C compressor essentially spins freely when the A/C is switched off. Therefore, there is basically no extra drag on the engine, and no real power gains from removing the system.

When removing the PS, many people chose to use some form of loop setup connected to the open fittings that are left on the rack.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:40 PM
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OMG YOU TOOK OFF YOUR A/C FOR HP. Give me your A/C man.


<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by FOOLS_Si &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how much hp will i get and would it be worth it to take off my p/s. i jus took off my a/c yesterday? </TD></TR></TABLE>


haha...DON'T DO IT....I'm trying to put my PS back on man. I have been driving without it for yrs and it gets a little old and not worth it.

Taking PS off DOES NOT GIVE HORSE-POWER YOU HP-HUNGER...yes, it does free up the power of your drivedrain of the crankpulley for a little better rev. But you can't even tell for ****.

See my aviator? don't be NOOB
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:42 PM
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It's definately not going to give you 1/10th of a second off of your 1/4.

Even if it did i would still rather be 1/10th of a second slower and comfortable.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:46 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by yeegsr &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Taking PS off DOES NOT GIVE HORSE-POWER YOU HP-HUNGER...yes, it does free up the power of your drivetrain</TD></TR></TABLE>

So which is it?

Removing the power steering (or even simply the PS pump belt) has been dyno-proven to free up anywhere from 4-7 whp on on a B-series. Whether or not you can personally detect that power difference, it's still there.
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:48 PM
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i def am starting to regret taking my ac out of my car. but i woulda had to get the del sol bracket and crap, im just too lazy and i always have my windows down anyway
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Old May 16, 2007 | 06:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tdizz07 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i def am starting to regret taking my ac out of my car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I can certainly understand that. Even in the Northeast, there are times when I wouldn't want to be without A/C.
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