im curious to see how much did it cost people to build their ls/b20vtec motors and what was their set-ups?


Modified by raphael at 4:07 PM 5/17/2007

 

a friend of mines spent damn near $6000. thats because he didnt do it right the first time. his is boosted but here is the setup
ls block- fully built- pistons, rods, sleeved, blueprint and balanced, line bored
built type r head

 

I built my first one for about $2500. I priced out my dream build at just over $10k.

It all depends on how much you want to tweak, how detailed you are, and what kind of performance you want at the end.

 

here's a rough estimate on how much my **** cost:

B16 head $350
DNR port/polish $650
3 angle Valve job $250
Supertech Springs/retainers $350
Skunk Pro2 cams $500
STR/BDL cam gear $150
ARP head studs $130
JG edlebrock manifold $300
68MM TB $190
Custom DTR header $1050

B20 block $450
Wiseco Piston $500
Eagle rods $300
ACL race bearings $120
Blance/micropolish crank $150
Machine work $200
ITR oil pump $100
ITR water pump $100
Block guard $70
Fidanza 8lb. flywheel $150
ACT 6 puck and HD pressure plate $300
ENDYN Breather KIT $180

all this **** runs up to $6540............ spent my life saving on this ****!!!!!!

 

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all this **** runs up to $6540............ spent my life saving on this ****!!!!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

thats dedication

 

I spent alot more on my **** that i thought. Already having a b20 complete, thought it would be cake. Ended up somewhere around this.
b16 head - 400.00
Golden eagle kit 125.00
Arp headstuds - 130.00
B16 dizzy - 100
Waterpump - 40
Timing belt -40
Valve cover gasket - 30

The little things kill ya.

 

I just built bottom end and will be running b16 transmission w\lsd, stock b16 head, intake, and throttle body for the time being

B20 Engine $400
Wiseco 13:1Pistons and Eagle rods $750
Bearings $100
Machine work $150
Block guard $100
everything else I had sitting around, find out how it runs soon

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by base-op.1320 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just built bottom end and will be running b16 transmission w\lsd, stock b16 head, intake, and throttle body for the time being

B20 Engine $400
Wiseco 13:1Pistons and Eagle rods $750
Bearings $100
Machine work $150
Block guard $100
everything else I had sitting around, find out how it runs soon
</TD></TR></TABLE>what machining did you get done?

 

Hot tanked block, deglazed cylinders (std. bore), micropolish crank - just slapping it together for temp motor till I turbo again

 

i might buy a block b18b longblock with 200k and i have a set of pr3 pistons. i needed to know if it was necessary to bore the cylinders out and have to buy new oversized pistons

 

Jesus, you asked the question I've been trying not to ask myself

Bottom End:
GE 84mm sleeved block and LS/VTEC kit-$1300
Eagle 85mmX95mm stroker kit w/ CP 11.4:1 and balance-$1300
OE bearings-$100
ITR oil pump-$100
ITR water pump-$100
ITR Timing belt-$60
Hot Tank and overbore-$325

Head:
B16 head-Freebie (already had it)
Hot Tank Head-$75
RM M24x w/ SL VT-$920
SKunk2 Pro Series IM-$300
SKunk2 68mm TB-$300
Top Speed 4-1 2.5" header-$350
Hondata IM gasket-$65
ARP Headstuds-$140
Walbro 255lph FP-$105
2.5" Cat-$150
Custom 2.5" exhaust-$250
Neptune-$430
Port Matching/engine assy/tuning-$500(a gift)
B16 tranny-Freebie (already had it)
Resynchro tranny- $200

A grand total of $7070.
Holy ****, I thought I only blew $6000ish until right now. I need a beer.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raphael &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i might buy a block b18b longblock with 200k and i have a set of pr3 pistons. i needed to know if it was necessary to bore the cylinders out and have to buy new oversized pistons</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

so far without the vtec head in just the bottoom end i think i have around 1600.
it is a ls with
u.s spec p-73's o/s with rings and wrist pins
arp rod bolts
clevitte bearings all around
all honda gaskets
gsr oil and water pump
micropolish,bore,resize,press,and clean everything by machine shop
labor of machine shop to assemble every thing
cometic head gasket
probably other misc. **** im missing but you get the idea,its pricey to get somebody else to do it but im not rich so i want it done right the first time and last long as possible

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raphael &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i might buy a block b18b longblock with 200k and i have a set of pr3 pistons. i needed to know if it was necessary to bore the cylinders out and have to buy new oversized pistons?</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

20,000 and counting. A endless money pit. 690hp 478lb/tq

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by raphael &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i might buy a block b18b longblock with 200k and i have a set of pr3 pistons. i needed to know if it was necessary to bore the cylinders out and have to buy new oversized pistons</TD></TR></TABLE>

you only need to overbore if there are scratches deep enough to catch a finger nail on on the cylinder walls. if things check out ok you'll only need a hone to clean things up.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by doood &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you only need to overbore if there are scratches deep enough to catch a finger nail on on the cylinder walls. if things check out ok you'll only need a hone to clean things up.</TD></TR></TABLE>so basically just a hone

 

still wondering what people are paying for their lsv

 

right from my spreadsheet....

2k for my 97 civic coupe
~2k in mods to the car itself

motor:

**valve cover gasket kit (from inlinefour)- $45
**B18 (LS) block - $100 (block, crank, oil pan, pickup, windage tray)
**windage tray and oil pan bolts - $45
**GSR pan/pickup/dizzy/jdm r header- $250
**GSR main caps/bolts/girdle/windage tray - $70
**GSR/ITR oil pump/water pump – $70
**ARP 8mm rod bolts - $45
**P30 pistons - $58
**ACL thrust washers/ npr rings - $50
**Complete GSR Head (no dizzy) - $400
**ARP head studs - $115 ARP-208-4303
**Skunk2 pro 1 cams - $425
**Skunk2 Cam Gears - $150
**Skunk2 valve springs/titanium retainers - $300
**blox intake manifold/type r cable bracket - $140
**GE sandwich plate and lines - $80
**GE dowel pins/head plug/tap/headgasket - $130
**LS rods - $35
**Shotpeen rods - $40
**hone block - $75
**water pipe/thermo housing - $13
**adjustable FPR - 50
**Bearings (acl) - $80
**Magnetic oil drain plug/cam seal - $40 (passwordjdm)
**drivers side mount bracket - $40
**alternator w/ mount - $25
**rear t bracket - $65 from inline four
**starter - $40
**type r linkage - $130 (heeltoeauto.com)
**halfshaft - $25
**ACT streetlite flywheel -$200
**ACT hdss street disc ($400) –
**ARP pressure plate bolts - $30
**Gsr transmission – 500
**ARP flywheel bolts ($50) –
**Chipped p28/ harness ($200) – 230
**Innovative mounts - $350
**professional products 70/68mm TB - $145

Money Spent - $4870

but the manifold/and big tb got sold and i now have a set of 50mm itb's, so add like 500 to that total. and as you can see i grabbed alot of stuff on ebay and the classifieds, although i statrted with everything bare so i also had to pick up lots of odds and ends bolts.

damn i didnt think i spent that much...

 

wow for that kind of money you might aas well saved up a little more and got a cool jdm k20a swap from hmo.

 

no because ive still spent half of what a full k20 setup would have run (i price it out, i could have done a k for 5-6 for the swap itself and another 3 in parts to put it in and other random work.) i spent 5 on my motor, having started from scratch and having to buy every damn bolt lol, thats what killed me but i eally dont care, and will do just fin against stock k20.

plus i didnt want to jump on the k wagon.

 

dyno it?

 

nope have to switch over to neptune and re do all my fuel lines...should be coming in late winter/spring...200whp easily with no head work.

 

I plan on purchasing a fully built ls block 81.5 weisco 11.5.1 pistons eagle rods and all new bearings and pumps with ls/v kit and arp head studs for 1000. I already have a built gsr head. So basically im swapping my stock gsr block with the built ls block. Do i have to do anything other than torque the head down and tune? The machine shop charging like 1600 to rebuild my gsr block so i figured why dont i buy a block thats has been already built.

 

you have to tap and plug the head.