I'm probably not the first one to notice the Delsol has a crazy understeer problem. I know being front wheel drive doesn't help, but it's not the first fwd car I drive, and the understeer is just unbeleivable.

Car is bone stock. I think a thicker rear sway bar may help, but I'm looking for more options.

 

If the car in your sig is your car, it's a 93 Si, correct? It won't have a rear sway. Just a front. Adding a rear sway, and a rear strut bar will help immensely.
What's your suspension setup looking like now?
All I expletive with are sols, and have raced preped a couple. Let me know if you need help.

 

93 Si, that's correct.

Other than wheel size, the whole car is bone stock.

If rear sway bar can help that much, maybe I could source one from a Teg around here. I'm guessing my rear bushing are most likely shot, so that'd give me an opportunity to upgrade the lca at the same time.

I got some Megan Rear LCA last week for my gf's ride, but she decided not to use them and sell the car. They're for a 92 DX. Could I use those? I think I remember reading somewhere I can add a bracket to it to install a sway bar. Could be way off though

 

They will work you can go factory size rear sway bar off any 94-01 integra and if you can find one I think 95 ex coupe came stock with a rear sway bar. If you want bigger they you will have to get a sway bar after market and make sure that you get something on there to prevent sub frame damage

 

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Is that if I go aftermarket, or even with one off a Teg?

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The Megan lca I have will work? Do I need to add anything to them to attach the sway bar?

 

You should expect to understeer quite a bit.

You've got a front-wheel drive vehicle with a front-biased ballast. You also have a front sway bar, but no rear bar to compensate.

Did you expect your car to handle really well out of the box?

 

I have a bar laying around (like the upper one in that picture), but I think it goes in the front. Right?

 

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Yes.

 

Any rear sway bar from any civic 92-95 or integra 94-01 will work for you.
Just getting that on there will help a lot. It becomes a really neutrally handling car. Let off the gas, back starts to step out, get back on the gas, front plows a little. So, you can sit on that edge of traction and find where it hangs out best.
The LCAs you bought for the woman will work fine. If you decide not to throw them in, I've drilled a hole in each LCA on numerous cars, without any problems. Throw a bolt through it the hole, and tighten it down.

 

What tires are you running?

 

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x2 I was going to say tires play a HUGE role in handling issues. If your fronts or backs are shot or crap tires to begin with, it could be a good bit or all of your problem.

But certainly running a sway bar up front and nothing in the rear or vice versa will cause issues too.

 

I'm running Nexxen 3000 at the moment in 205/45/16.

I don't think the tires are the greatest issue at the moment. They may become problematic once the suspension is upgraded, but the tires currently surpass the suspension(I'd think).

So I'll try to get my hands on a rear sway bar to begin with, and I'll take from there

 

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I'll bump this thread up for a picture of a gettho setup. Couldn't find much on google.

The guy I bought the sway bar from couldn't let go of the end links. So I made my own that a pretty much the same length as the stock ones... But it seems the sway bar is sitting much further away from the LCA than it was on his car since my end link is about 1" away from the LCA...

 

afternoon bumpage

 

I installed the rear sway late last week and all I can say is WOW.

Doesn't do **** for body roll, but the front end barely dives anymore.

 

What size rear bar did you use? Subrframe brace?

 

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Keep in mind that sway bars are designed to complement your springs. A sway bar alone isn't sufficient for handling body roll with stock rate springs.

 

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stock bar from a Teg (not ITR)

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Yeah I know... strut and springs are other things I'll have to look into down the road.

 

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H&R springs and tokico illuminas.

 

i used to have a del Sol S (97) it handled great with no rear sway....but lots of braces.....

go to the local del Sol forum and you might find a couple of people running a nice cabin bar this bolts to the seat belt bolts and what a difference.....a guy in San Diego makes them and run about 120 or so the del sol has an extremely weak chassis since its an EG with a hole in the roof. this bar made the biggest difference.

i ran HR Sports with AGX's, rear strut, rear lower tie, cabin bar, front lower tie and front strut. ran car at 4 front and 4 rear on the AGX and the lil thing handled well. im sure it wouldve been better with a rear sway (my civic feels waaaaay better with it).

 

don't go H&R the spring rates are too soft... especially for illuminas, either get the illuminas combo with springs to match the shock or get a really stiff spring... here I'll get you a link for some cheap illuminas http://www.prostreetonline.com...t.asp

 

I had H&R race springs on stock shocks then illuminas, the spring rates were stiff, nice enough for a daily driver. Much stiffer than OTS gc or tein s. techs.

 

ek forever guy... how come you didn't get the illuminas spring/strut combo???

 

Finding a balance between driving style, the cars power and suspension components is key.

Under steer and over steer can be corrected by a number of different things

I highly recommend the book:"high performance handling" for anyone who owns a del sol

I was going to install new suspension items today/i'm not sure if i will wait until i have the facilities available to check the camber and toe settings or just pay for an alignment

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The tokico spring springrates are too soft for my taste. They're probably excellent for most people who like a softer springrate for daily driving.

I'm fine with ~500 lb springrates daily driving.

The H&R's have a much higher springrate than the tokico factory springs and have a tad lower drop.