Brian Crower Stage 3 Cams
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Re: Brian Crower Stage 3 Cams (RippSpeed)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RippSpeed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">1993 Civic Hatchback CX B20B VTEC w/ GSR trans-aka 'The Turtle!'</TD></TR></TABLE>
Depending on your mods and budget, you may want to look at other cams + some tuning.
Depending on your mods and budget, you may want to look at other cams + some tuning.
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Re: Brian Crower Stage 3 Cams (b19coupe)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My roomate had his stage 2's, didn't have very impressive results with them..</TD></TR></TABLE>
my bro just got the BC stage 2 he plan on running them with 11.4 compression b18c1. What's the cons with them? They have a lot of duration too 306 and 300.
my bro just got the BC stage 2 he plan on running them with 11.4 compression b18c1. What's the cons with them? They have a lot of duration too 306 and 300.
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Re: Brian Crower Stage 3 Cams (realis9)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by realis9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What's the cons with them? </TD></TR></TABLE>
on this website, if they aren't Skunk Pro series then they suck. i know somebody who made 200whp on a mild build with 11/1 c.r and an off shelf header with the B.Crower 0012. trust me, they will make power. you're just asking the wrong people. show your builder the cam spec sheet and your set up and he'll tell you whether or not they suit your needs.
on this website, if they aren't Skunk Pro series then they suck. i know somebody who made 200whp on a mild build with 11/1 c.r and an off shelf header with the B.Crower 0012. trust me, they will make power. you're just asking the wrong people. show your builder the cam spec sheet and your set up and he'll tell you whether or not they suit your needs.
Re: Brian Crower Stage 3 Cams (realis9)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by realis9 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> They have a lot of duration too 306 and 300. </TD></TR></TABLE>
Ahhh, don't get caught up in the advretised specs....there are much MUCH more to cams than lift/duration numbers. My M22's killed my roomates BC 2's.
Ahhh, don't get caught up in the advretised specs....there are much MUCH more to cams than lift/duration numbers. My M22's killed my roomates BC 2's.
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Re: Brian Crower Stage 3 Cams (clean rice)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Ahhh, don't get caught up in the advretised specs....there are much MUCH more to cams than lift/duration numbers. My M22's killed my roomates BC 2's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ah-em, so, what other factors are you gonna tell us about Mr. Cam Designer/Developer/Machinist/Tester!?
Ahhh, don't get caught up in the advretised specs....there are much MUCH more to cams than lift/duration numbers. My M22's killed my roomates BC 2's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Ah-em, so, what other factors are you gonna tell us about Mr. Cam Designer/Developer/Machinist/Tester!?
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Re: Brian Crower Stage 3 Cams (clean rice)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ahhh, don't get caught up in the advretised specs....there are much MUCH more to cams than lift/duration numbers. My M22's killed my roomates BC 2's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
different day, set up, temperature........... were both cars even tuned at the same facility? you're m22's might have killed your boys bc4's, but, that 79wtq you made in the mid is absoultely disgraceful
. there are too many peak hp freaks on here, ridin' dirty. average hp owns, you
different day, set up, temperature........... were both cars even tuned at the same facility? you're m22's might have killed your boys bc4's, but, that 79wtq you made in the mid is absoultely disgraceful
. there are too many peak hp freaks on here, ridin' dirty. average hp owns, you
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dude i have a fully built gsr with 13.5:1 compression, 85mm and brian crower 3 cams. i made 25 whp and 14 wtq with them set at 0,0 who ever said it is right some people on here just like to spend un called for money on **** that doesnt work any better
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Re: Brian Crower Stage 3 Cams (clean rice)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nothing, cuz I'm not the builder 
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Exactly...
</TD></TR></TABLE>Exactly...
Re: Brian Crower Stage 3 Cams (Rollo Lawson)
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different day, set up, temperature........... were both cars even tuned at the same facility? you're m22's might have killed your boys bc4's, but, that 79wtq you made in the mid is absoultely disgraceful . there are too many peak hp freaks on here, ridin' dirty. average hp owns, you</TD></TR></TABLE>
-He did not have BC4's, he had Brian Crower stage 2's.
-Both were on a Dynojet
-He was tuned in the fall, I was tuned in the summer
-He had an awesome tuner, my "tuner" thought my motor was a K20. Had absolutely no idea what the DC was on the injectors, nor was timing set.
-At the time of my "tune," my fpr was damn near completely shut
-We made the same wheel horsepower
-He had Comptech Ice Box and Spoon header. I had stock intake, stock exhaust manifold.
I had an absolute **** tune, stock air box and exhaust manifold with a closed fpr, timing was not set, and injector duty cycle was never determined yet I made the same amount that he did. Hmmm.....
Yes I realize that the actual dyno's themselves are not the same, his may read low and mine might have read high, but I think the numbers for my motor seem about average. I was expecting more out of his and so was he but whatever, I'm not gonna argue. He has Blox B's in it now, as soon as I get my car back on the road we are both going for a retune at the same place, same day. I have a Top Fuel intake with a Toda header now, I'm anxious to see the results
different day, set up, temperature........... were both cars even tuned at the same facility? you're m22's might have killed your boys bc4's, but, that 79wtq you made in the mid is absoultely disgraceful
. there are too many peak hp freaks on here, ridin' dirty. average hp owns, you</TD></TR></TABLE>-He did not have BC4's, he had Brian Crower stage 2's.
-Both were on a Dynojet
-He was tuned in the fall, I was tuned in the summer
-He had an awesome tuner, my "tuner" thought my motor was a K20. Had absolutely no idea what the DC was on the injectors, nor was timing set.
-At the time of my "tune," my fpr was damn near completely shut
-We made the same wheel horsepower
-He had Comptech Ice Box and Spoon header. I had stock intake, stock exhaust manifold.
I had an absolute **** tune, stock air box and exhaust manifold with a closed fpr, timing was not set, and injector duty cycle was never determined yet I made the same amount that he did. Hmmm.....
Yes I realize that the actual dyno's themselves are not the same, his may read low and mine might have read high, but I think the numbers for my motor seem about average. I was expecting more out of his and so was he but whatever, I'm not gonna argue. He has Blox B's in it now, as soon as I get my car back on the road we are both going for a retune at the same place, same day. I have a Top Fuel intake with a Toda header now, I'm anxious to see the results
Re: Brian Crower Stage 3 Cams (Chillinit)
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well here my final setup for my Killer BTec
B16 Head:
-Light Port and polish
-3 angle valve job
-SuperTech Titanium Valves ( stock size)
-SuperTech Titanium Dual Valve Springs
-SpuerTech Titanium retainers
-Brian Crower Stage 3
-Golden Eagle cam gears
-Skunk 2 Pro Series Manifold (port mached to tb and lite porting of runners)
-AEBS 70mm TB
-Pro Fab 4-2-1 Header
-Hondata IM heatshield
-310cc Injectors
-B&M FPR
-Apexi Spark plug wires
-AEM Short Ram filter
B20 Block:
-b20 Block (cleaned and honed)
-Golden Eagle Block Guard (welded in to block and sleeves, then cleaned up)
-b20 Crank
-Arias Pistons with rings (12:1 compression)
-Eagle Rods w/ARP rod bolts
-Honda Rod Bearings and Main Bearings
-Golden Eagle Vtec conversion kit (84mm)
-Golden Eagle Head Bolts
-Type R Oil Pump
-Type R Water pump
-Moroso Oil Pan
running a 190lph fuel pump and a Custom 2.5" Vibrant/Moroso exhaust system... Going to be tuned on a Hondatat S200 P28 w/ a Zeitronix Wide Band.
I hope to make about 200 to 220whp
B16 Head:
-Light Port and polish
-3 angle valve job
-SuperTech Titanium Valves ( stock size)
-SuperTech Titanium Dual Valve Springs
-SpuerTech Titanium retainers
-Brian Crower Stage 3
-Golden Eagle cam gears
-Skunk 2 Pro Series Manifold (port mached to tb and lite porting of runners)
-AEBS 70mm TB
-Pro Fab 4-2-1 Header
-Hondata IM heatshield
-310cc Injectors
-B&M FPR
-Apexi Spark plug wires
-AEM Short Ram filter
B20 Block:
-b20 Block (cleaned and honed)
-Golden Eagle Block Guard (welded in to block and sleeves, then cleaned up)
-b20 Crank
-Arias Pistons with rings (12:1 compression)
-Eagle Rods w/ARP rod bolts
-Honda Rod Bearings and Main Bearings
-Golden Eagle Vtec conversion kit (84mm)
-Golden Eagle Head Bolts
-Type R Oil Pump
-Type R Water pump
-Moroso Oil Pan
running a 190lph fuel pump and a Custom 2.5" Vibrant/Moroso exhaust system... Going to be tuned on a Hondatat S200 P28 w/ a Zeitronix Wide Band.
I hope to make about 200 to 220whp
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Re: Brian Crower Stage 3 Cams (clean rice)
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by clean rice »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">-He did not have BC4's, he had Brian Crower stage 2's.</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats what i meant. anyway, its so easy to compare 2 dynoplots from 2 different seasons. too many people are concerned with peak hp. trust me, B.Crower 2's make power. who knows, maybe your 16b is healthier than your boys? and, what were his wtq #'s? too many variables to compare, my friend......too many variables
thats what i meant. anyway, its so easy to compare 2 dynoplots from 2 different seasons. too many people are concerned with peak hp. trust me, B.Crower 2's make power. who knows, maybe your 16b is healthier than your boys? and, what were his wtq #'s? too many variables to compare, my friend......too many variables
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by RippSpeed »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well here my final setup for my Killer BTec
B16 Head:
-Light Port and polish
-3 angle valve job
-SuperTech Titanium Valves ( stock size)
-SuperTech Titanium Dual Valve Springs
-SpuerTech Titanium retainers
-Brian Crower Stage 3
-Golden Eagle cam gears
-Skunk 2 Pro Series Manifold (port mached to tb and lite porting of runners)
-AEBS 70mm TB
-Pro Fab 4-2-1 Header
-Hondata IM heatshield
-310cc Injectors
-B&M FPR
-Apexi Spark plug wires
-AEM Short Ram filter
B20 Block:
-b20 Block (cleaned and honed)
-Golden Eagle Block Guard (welded in to block and sleeves, then cleaned up)
-b20 Crank
-Arias Pistons with rings (12:1 compression)
-Eagle Rods w/ARP rod bolts
-Honda Rod Bearings and Main Bearings
-Golden Eagle Vtec conversion kit (84mm)
-Golden Eagle Head Bolts
-Type R Oil Pump
-Type R Water pump
-Moroso Oil Pan
running a 190lph fuel pump and a Custom 2.5" Vibrant/Moroso exhaust system... Going to be tuned on a Hondatat S200 P28 w/ a Zeitronix Wide Band.
I hope to make about 200 to 220whp
B16 Head:
-Light Port and polish
-3 angle valve job
-SuperTech Titanium Valves ( stock size)
-SuperTech Titanium Dual Valve Springs
-SpuerTech Titanium retainers
-Brian Crower Stage 3
-Golden Eagle cam gears
-Skunk 2 Pro Series Manifold (port mached to tb and lite porting of runners)
-AEBS 70mm TB
-Pro Fab 4-2-1 Header
-Hondata IM heatshield
-310cc Injectors
-B&M FPR
-Apexi Spark plug wires
-AEM Short Ram filter
B20 Block:
-b20 Block (cleaned and honed)
-Golden Eagle Block Guard (welded in to block and sleeves, then cleaned up)
-b20 Crank
-Arias Pistons with rings (12:1 compression)
-Eagle Rods w/ARP rod bolts
-Honda Rod Bearings and Main Bearings
-Golden Eagle Vtec conversion kit (84mm)
-Golden Eagle Head Bolts
-Type R Oil Pump
-Type R Water pump
-Moroso Oil Pan
running a 190lph fuel pump and a Custom 2.5" Vibrant/Moroso exhaust system... Going to be tuned on a Hondatat S200 P28 w/ a Zeitronix Wide Band.
I hope to make about 200 to 220whp
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Dont get high hopes, id say shoot for about 215 you will most likely out flow your cylinder head, i have a similar setup but with more compression and bigger bore and better exhaust setup but no port and polish at all on my head and its killing me, but even with 215 depending on weight you should run 12s all day with slicks that is
B16 Head:
-Light Port and polish
-3 angle valve job
-SuperTech Titanium Valves ( stock size)
-SuperTech Titanium Dual Valve Springs
-SpuerTech Titanium retainers
-Brian Crower Stage 3
-Golden Eagle cam gears
-Skunk 2 Pro Series Manifold (port mached to tb and lite porting of runners)
-AEBS 70mm TB
-Pro Fab 4-2-1 Header
-Hondata IM heatshield
-310cc Injectors
-B&M FPR
-Apexi Spark plug wires
-AEM Short Ram filter
B20 Block:
-b20 Block (cleaned and honed)
-Golden Eagle Block Guard (welded in to block and sleeves, then cleaned up)
-b20 Crank
-Arias Pistons with rings (12:1 compression)
-Eagle Rods w/ARP rod bolts
-Honda Rod Bearings and Main Bearings
-Golden Eagle Vtec conversion kit (84mm)
-Golden Eagle Head Bolts
-Type R Oil Pump
-Type R Water pump
-Moroso Oil Pan
running a 190lph fuel pump and a Custom 2.5" Vibrant/Moroso exhaust system... Going to be tuned on a Hondatat S200 P28 w/ a Zeitronix Wide Band.
I hope to make about 200 to 220whp
B16 Head:
-Light Port and polish
-3 angle valve job
-SuperTech Titanium Valves ( stock size)
-SuperTech Titanium Dual Valve Springs
-SpuerTech Titanium retainers
-Brian Crower Stage 3
-Golden Eagle cam gears
-Skunk 2 Pro Series Manifold (port mached to tb and lite porting of runners)
-AEBS 70mm TB
-Pro Fab 4-2-1 Header
-Hondata IM heatshield
-310cc Injectors
-B&M FPR
-Apexi Spark plug wires
-AEM Short Ram filter
B20 Block:
-b20 Block (cleaned and honed)
-Golden Eagle Block Guard (welded in to block and sleeves, then cleaned up)
-b20 Crank
-Arias Pistons with rings (12:1 compression)
-Eagle Rods w/ARP rod bolts
-Honda Rod Bearings and Main Bearings
-Golden Eagle Vtec conversion kit (84mm)
-Golden Eagle Head Bolts
-Type R Oil Pump
-Type R Water pump
-Moroso Oil Pan
running a 190lph fuel pump and a Custom 2.5" Vibrant/Moroso exhaust system... Going to be tuned on a Hondatat S200 P28 w/ a Zeitronix Wide Band.
I hope to make about 200 to 220whp
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Dont get high hopes, id say shoot for about 215 you will most likely out flow your cylinder head, i have a similar setup but with more compression and bigger bore and better exhaust setup but no port and polish at all on my head and its killing me, but even with 215 depending on weight you should run 12s all day with slicks that is
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