First impressions...I don't really like it. The muffler itself looks to big for the car and the design of the axle-back portion is so that the muffler hangs down in the front and looks like it angles up in the back...giving it a very cheap look.

The sound is ok...not as deep as my HFP exhaust, but that's ok.

As for the power...going from a 2" pipe to a 3" one I can deff tell the lose in bottom end torque and it even feels like a lose over all, but ill have to get it on the dyno to find out.

 

No one seems to understand that 3" pipe is for turbo applications...
That strange bend it does at the back, its for "style"

SMo'

 

Are you sure its a 3" ?

I gotta Im danny @ greddy tomorrow but we were discussing the tiC on friday and i dont think it's "that big"

Because he said something like... alot of people think its 70mm.. but its not..

 

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First impressions...I don't really like it. The muffler itself looks to big for the car and the design of the axle-back portion is so that the muffler hangs down in the front and looks like it angles up in the back...giving it a very cheap look.

The sound is ok...not as deep as my HFP exhaust, but that's ok.

As for the power...going from a 2" pipe to a 3" one I can deff tell the lose in bottom end torque and it even feels like a lose over all, but ill have to get it on the dyno to find out.</TD></TR></TABLE>
How does the angle of the exhaust make it cheap?? that is the n1 racing style.. and the piping isn't 3' its 60mm which is 2.36

 

Ok I was wrong...but its not 60mm like you said...it's 60mm.

Trust me like looks cheap...like it's TO big and doesn't fit the car, and the way that it angles doesnt help it either.


Modified by marshall81 at 4:10 PM 5/15/2007

 

I just measured it and it's about 2.50" which puts it at 60mm...if you ask me it's to big for a non turbo car.


Modified by marshall81 at 4:10 PM 5/15/2007

 

I would have to agree... 2.5 is the biggest you really need, even with modifications... Standard 2" performs really well as long as it is all mandrel bent...

SMo'

 

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I just measured it and it's about 2.75" which puts it at 70mm...if you ask me it's to big for a non turbo car.</TD></TR></TABLE>

What did you measure? If its on the car?

 

I crawled under the car with a pair of dial calipers :-)

 

Did you measure the outside of the tubing, or the inlet of the muffler, the inside of the tubing, what did you measure?

SMo'

 

Im tossed up between this and the Evo2, Im leaning more towards the evo2. I am definately staying na and only want 60mm, but the Tic doesnt look right on the coupe without the hfp kit atleast from the pics ive seen.

 

ne vids on it?

 

I measured the outside of the piping which have a diameter slightly bigger then 2.50



Modified by marshall81 at 4:11 PM 5/15/2007

 

I was pretty much convinced on this exhaust until I saw it on a car. It just looks "rice", you could stuff a grapefruit down that pipe, and I'm not a fan of that. I like the look of the stock, just wish it was deeper/louder.

 

reason why im waiting for the tanabe for the R18 to come out

 

Could you just remove the "muffler" that is before the axle and get better flow and sound?

 

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I hear that is insanely quiet, which isn't what I'm going for.

 

any pics of vids of it on your car?

 

pics on the SI?

 

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SMo'</TD></TR></TABLE>

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I just measured it and it's about 2.75" which puts it at 70mm...if you ask me it's to big for a non turbo car.</TD></TR></TABLE>



why are ppl still sayin that ANYTHING over 2.5" is useless w/o FI??! 3" + n/a k20 = no loss and very good gains. here's my proof till someone shows me otherwise:

http://hondata.com/images/dyno...t.gif
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums...08216
(blue = stock red = intake green = intake + 3" catback)
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums...+dyno
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums...30183

plz prove me wrong if you can

btw evo = 60mm and enlarges to 70mm

 

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How does the angle of the exhaust make it cheap?? that is the n1 racing style.. and the piping isn't 3' its 60mm which is 2.36 </TD></TR></TABLE>

They make a 3 inch as well for turbo applications. What some of you are stating that they don't is not accurate.

 

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why are ppl still sayin that ANYTHING over 2.5" is useless w/o FI??! 3" + n/a k20 = no loss and very good gains. here's my proof till someone shows me otherwise:

http://hondata.com/images/dyno...t.gif
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums...08216
(blue = stock red = intake green = intake + 3" catback)
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums...+dyno
http://www.8thcivic.com/forums...30183

plz prove me wrong if you can

btw evo = 60mm and enlarges to 70mm
</TD></TR></TABLE>

And which one of those pictures shows 2.5" mandrel bent vs 3.0" mandrel bent?

SMo'

 

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And which one of those pictures shows 2.5" mandrel bent vs 3.0" mandrel bent?

SMo'</TD></TR></TABLE>

Exactly, call up John at Hytech exhaust and ask him what diameter pipping he's running for his NA k20a/z1/z3 exhaust and why.

(2.5inch)

 

2.5 is definately all you will ever need for N/A.

 

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I measured the outside of the piping which have a diameter slightly bigger then 2.75</TD></TR></TABLE>

your supposed to measure the inside diameter.