Hello all, I have the JDM 96 spec ITR suspension conversion with the 4x114.3 bolt pattern on my EK and was wondering what everyone is using when replacing the pads and rotors. I have been told that they are a 10.2" disc for fronts and I am not sure about rears. Basically, all I have found are Mugen front rotors and they are $300 a set from KING Mtrsps. Does anyone know what else works? and seriously know, do vtec prelude rotors from 92-96? or accord, or gsr pads, gsr rotors are 10.2" I believe.

thanks for any answers in advance, and yes, I tried searching this, to no avail, I wouldnt have asked if I didnt know or couldnt find it, but my brakes are seriously 'tisking' and 'hissing' all the time.

-Colin

 

bump, need to know.

Found out from "blueintegraboy" that any pad from 94-01 integra (except the type R) will work because the caliper is the same size

 

those will only work if you take them and have them redrilled to match the new lug pattern as well as have the center bored out some.... search bc there is a HUGE thread specifially about this. i have it saved at home but im at work now

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=514109&page=1

helpful thread

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bleedblue94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">those will only work if you take them and have them redrilled to match the new lug pattern as well as have the center bored out some.... search bc there is a HUGE thread specifially about this. i have it saved at home but im at work now</TD></TR></TABLE>

what will only work, the pads or rotors, which do you mean?

is the link I just posted the correct one?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4F_ Mugen CoL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

what will only work, the pads or rotors, which do you mean?

is the link I just posted the correct one?</TD></TR></TABLE>yes thats the link i believe. the rotors will work with the work i described above. the pads from any teg should work as well. if you wanted to you could always just replace the calipers, brackets, pads, and rotors with prelude non vtec ones and then youll be able to retain youre 4x114 setup and be able to use usdm oem parts in the future

 

https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=504424

also a useful thread, I dunno why I am just finding this crap now, can this be stickied to somehwereby a mod, It seems like a lot of people want to know this stuff thoughout my searching

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bleedblue94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yes thats the link i believe. the rotors will work with the work i described above. the pads from any teg should work as well. if you wanted to you could always just replace the calipers, brackets, pads, and rotors with prelude non vtec ones and then youll be able to retain youre 4x114 setup and be able to use usdm oem parts in the future</TD></TR></TABLE>


but the point of doing the jdm 4x114 is for the better pistons in the calipers, they are actually a better brake setup then the usdm non vtec preludes, are they not? what is the size and thickness of the prelude nonvtecs?

 

thats the whole i idea of searching ha .... if anything maybe they can include it into the FAQs thread in this forum

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bleedblue94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats the whole i idea of searching ha .... if anything maybe they can include it into the FAQs thread in this forum</TD></TR></TABLE>

they should have it in there, i have tried to ask a lot of people about it and they have told me to call fastbrakes.com and of course the guy who runs the place, Brian, is out of town until may 23rd just my luck

 

ha seems thats what always happens to us all ha

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 4F_ Mugen CoL &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">


but the point of doing the jdm 4x114 is for the better pistons in the calipers, they are actually a better brake setup then the usdm non vtec preludes, are they not? what is the size and thickness of the prelude nonvtecs?
</TD></TR></TABLE>if im not mistaken im pretty sure the prelude rotors are bigger and thinker, and thats why you need to use the prelude bracket if youre going to use the prelude rotor and caliper.... bc the itr one does not allow for enough clearance. its been awhile since i did all that so im trying to remember this stuff despite my foggy memory

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bleedblue94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if im not mistaken im pretty sure the prelude rotors are bigger and thinker, and thats why you need to use the prelude bracket if youre going to use the prelude rotor and caliper.... bc the itr one does not allow for enough clearance. its been awhile since i did all that so im trying to remember this stuff despite my foggy memory</TD></TR></TABLE>

well if the prelude bracket and caliper is thicker, then I suppose it would be worth it to upgrade to that

 

like i said dont quote me ... that info in all in those threads so double check it.... its been awhile and im allittle foggy not to mention the beer

 

Can't you just buy rotors for a 4x114 accord or prelude?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't you just buy rotors for a 4x114 accord or prelude?</TD></TR></TABLE>

no it is not that simple, hopefully this thread will go over exactly what can and cannot be used and it gets stickied or is placed in a FAQ section

 

I also read a lot of threads about this because I also have 4*114 and the only rotors i know work for sure are gsr rotors re-drilled to 4*114

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Can't you just buy rotors for a 4x114 accord or prelude?</TD></TR></TABLE>no you cant .... they are too thick i believe to clear the caliper

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bleedblue94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">no you cant .... they are too thick i believe to clear the caliper</TD></TR></TABLE>

I just read that in another thread. Learned something new.

 

thats the joy of this game we play ha

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bleedblue94 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thats the joy of this game we play ha</TD></TR></TABLE>

totally is, thats one thing I have learned here on ht, if your going to search something, you need to also back it up with like three other sources of the same info. to think it may be the the correct info. There are a TON of information regurgitators on here who love to post ' I read that if you....yada ' . I have found out the hard way that there are a lot of people on here who dont know how to even change a brake pad, let alone what one will fit in a 4x114 conversion

 

hahaha ... that is so true

 

anyone else contributing?

 

the 94 teg rotors redrilled are the way to go if you don't wanna buy the real deal ones from king or other importers.

I went with 98+ITR calipers/brackets and 92-96 Prelude vtec rotors on the front. It DOES require a little grinding for caliper clearance but it doesn't look like enough to be structurally unsafe.

This setup barely clears the spokes on the 96/97 ITR wheels but it does clear. It completely fills the wheel and will probably make you fly through the window if you decide to stomp your brakes while not wearing a seatbelt.

I have yet to do the rears but, I have a feeling it will be the Prelude vtec calipers and rotors on the rear.

 

very help full