Chinese manufactured tires for $200
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Chinese manufactured tires for $200
I dunno if any of you have seen these floating around online.
Triangle brand
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1
Ling-Long brand
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1
For $200 shipped I think I might just try them out.
Anybody used them or heard anything?
Triangle brand
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1
Ling-Long brand
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1
For $200 shipped I think I might just try them out.
Anybody used them or heard anything?
From Tirereview.com:
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Linglong Rubber, based in the flourishing coastal province of Shandong, has an annual production capacity of about 9 million passenger car and truck tyres and thus is one of the biggest Chinese tyre manufacturers. Internationally, Linglong attracts attention because two thirds of its production is sold in export markets.
Apart from the main brand Linglong, the company's 8,000 workers also produce two other tyre brands called Shanling and Leao. But outside China it is mainly Linglong brand tyres that are sold. The company was put into the position of selling tyres on the European replacement markets since it started to operate a second tyre factory next to the first one. The new factory only produces radial tyres, explains export manager Merry ****.
Currently, the privately owned company (owned by **** Xicheng) manufactures about 2 million truck and about 5 million passenger car tyres every year; furthermore, Linglong still produces some 2 million diagonal tyres (truck, light truck, OTR). From this annual production, about 4 million passenger tyres (80%), 500,000 truck tyres (25%) and one million bias tyres (50%) are sold on export markets, says **** in an interview with Tyres & Accessories.
"Our exports will grow when more sizes become available that suit these markets," she continues. This is where Linglong meets the general market trend in China because domestic competitors also target important export markets. For example, Linglong has recently introduced new winter patterns and in the near future the manufacturer is going to launch high performance tyres, **** reveals.
In order to meet the expected growing demand from the domestic as well as export markets, Linglong is currently building its third tyre factory on the same site in Shandong province. After the commissioning of the two production lines, an annual output of about 2 million radial truck tyres is expected. Later on, a third production line will be added and, in 2008, passenger car tyres will be manufactured in the new facility although the export manager did not want to see the details of this investment published yet.
All in all, Linglong says that it is going to invest £220 million in its third tyre factory, according to ****. If industry sources are accurate, Shandong Linglong has an annual turnover of £225 million.
Even in the future such investments will be made under Linglong's own leadership, says the export manager. There have been some negotiations in the past with potential Western co-operation partners such as Pirelli or Continental. But all talks failed because "they wanted to cooperate but have the majority." Linglong does not want to give up control over its three tyre factories, **** makes plain.
If Linglong has its way there will not be any take-over through a Western manufacturer. However, the Chinese manufacturer is currently holding co-operation talks with two other potential partners who would allow Linglong to hold the majority stake. However: "With regards to technical agreements everything can be discussed."</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Linglong Rubber, based in the flourishing coastal province of Shandong, has an annual production capacity of about 9 million passenger car and truck tyres and thus is one of the biggest Chinese tyre manufacturers. Internationally, Linglong attracts attention because two thirds of its production is sold in export markets.
Apart from the main brand Linglong, the company's 8,000 workers also produce two other tyre brands called Shanling and Leao. But outside China it is mainly Linglong brand tyres that are sold. The company was put into the position of selling tyres on the European replacement markets since it started to operate a second tyre factory next to the first one. The new factory only produces radial tyres, explains export manager Merry ****.
Currently, the privately owned company (owned by **** Xicheng) manufactures about 2 million truck and about 5 million passenger car tyres every year; furthermore, Linglong still produces some 2 million diagonal tyres (truck, light truck, OTR). From this annual production, about 4 million passenger tyres (80%), 500,000 truck tyres (25%) and one million bias tyres (50%) are sold on export markets, says **** in an interview with Tyres & Accessories.
"Our exports will grow when more sizes become available that suit these markets," she continues. This is where Linglong meets the general market trend in China because domestic competitors also target important export markets. For example, Linglong has recently introduced new winter patterns and in the near future the manufacturer is going to launch high performance tyres, **** reveals.
In order to meet the expected growing demand from the domestic as well as export markets, Linglong is currently building its third tyre factory on the same site in Shandong province. After the commissioning of the two production lines, an annual output of about 2 million radial truck tyres is expected. Later on, a third production line will be added and, in 2008, passenger car tyres will be manufactured in the new facility although the export manager did not want to see the details of this investment published yet.
All in all, Linglong says that it is going to invest £220 million in its third tyre factory, according to ****. If industry sources are accurate, Shandong Linglong has an annual turnover of £225 million.
Even in the future such investments will be made under Linglong's own leadership, says the export manager. There have been some negotiations in the past with potential Western co-operation partners such as Pirelli or Continental. But all talks failed because "they wanted to cooperate but have the majority." Linglong does not want to give up control over its three tyre factories, **** makes plain.
If Linglong has its way there will not be any take-over through a Western manufacturer. However, the Chinese manufacturer is currently holding co-operation talks with two other potential partners who would allow Linglong to hold the majority stake. However: "With regards to technical agreements everything can be discussed."</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Hmm.. is that alot of production compared to US based companies?
And if they are exporting so many tires for such little consumer cost, that would prompt me to question the quality and workmanship.
Whatcha think?
And if they are exporting so many tires for such little consumer cost, that would prompt me to question the quality and workmanship.
Whatcha think?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by portaman03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm.. is that alot of production compared to US based companies?
And if they are exporting so many tires for such little consumer cost, that would prompt me to question the quality and workmanship.
Whatcha think?</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats true bro, i'd want to get a good review on this tire before i'd purchase them. they look just like the yoko es100's.
And if they are exporting so many tires for such little consumer cost, that would prompt me to question the quality and workmanship.
Whatcha think?</TD></TR></TABLE>
thats true bro, i'd want to get a good review on this tire before i'd purchase them. they look just like the yoko es100's.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by portaman03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Hmm.. is that alot of production compared to US based companies?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No. Last year Goodyear sold 215 million tires worldwide (ref). Comparing market shares in the chart below, you can see that Michelin (French) and Bridgestone (Japanese) are in the same ballpark as Goodyear, and even the small tire manufacturers, like Kumho (Korean, tenth largest) and Toyo (Japanese, eleventh largest), sell well over 20 million tires per year.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by portaman03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And if they are exporting so many tires for such little consumer cost, that would prompt me to question the quality and workmanship.
Whatcha think?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmoua »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'd want to get a good review on this tire before i'd purchase them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would not buy a tire without performance tests, without a big established corporate infrastructure, etc. Let's say your tire has a manufacturing defect and you need to return it; what are the chances (a) that you can reach their customer service folks easily, and (b) that they have a dealer near you where you can get it replaced?
Also, there are many, many tires on the market that are very good and very inexpensive. Between the need for safety, and the need for performance, why take the chance?
No. Last year Goodyear sold 215 million tires worldwide (ref). Comparing market shares in the chart below, you can see that Michelin (French) and Bridgestone (Japanese) are in the same ballpark as Goodyear, and even the small tire manufacturers, like Kumho (Korean, tenth largest) and Toyo (Japanese, eleventh largest), sell well over 20 million tires per year.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by portaman03 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And if they are exporting so many tires for such little consumer cost, that would prompt me to question the quality and workmanship.
Whatcha think?</TD></TR></TABLE>
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by bmoua »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'd want to get a good review on this tire before i'd purchase them.</TD></TR></TABLE>
I would not buy a tire without performance tests, without a big established corporate infrastructure, etc. Let's say your tire has a manufacturing defect and you need to return it; what are the chances (a) that you can reach their customer service folks easily, and (b) that they have a dealer near you where you can get it replaced?
Also, there are many, many tires on the market that are very good and very inexpensive. Between the need for safety, and the need for performance, why take the chance?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
No. Last year Goodyear sold 215 million tires worldwide (ref). Comparing market shares in the chart below, you can see that Michelin (French) and Bridgestone (Japanese) are in the same ballpark as Goodyear, and even the small tire manufacturers, like Kumho (Korean, tenth largest) and Toyo (Japanese, eleventh largest), sell well over 20 million tires per year.
I would not buy a tire without performance tests, without a big established corporate infrastructure, etc. Let's say your tire has a manufacturing defect and you need to return it; what are the chances (a) that you can reach their customer service folks easily, and (b) that they have a dealer near you where you can get it replaced?
Also, there are many, many tires on the market that are very good and very inexpensive. Between the need for safety, and the need for performance, why take the chance?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
very true bro, like they say you get what you payed for. I've been in that situation twice so i know haha. If you want to save some money and get some good performance tires, kuhmo spts are #1. I have the yoko es100s at the moment but my next set of tires will be the kuhmos, compared to the es100s the spts are a tad better in the rain and you save $20 or so on each tire.
nsxtasy will agree.
No. Last year Goodyear sold 215 million tires worldwide (ref). Comparing market shares in the chart below, you can see that Michelin (French) and Bridgestone (Japanese) are in the same ballpark as Goodyear, and even the small tire manufacturers, like Kumho (Korean, tenth largest) and Toyo (Japanese, eleventh largest), sell well over 20 million tires per year.
I would not buy a tire without performance tests, without a big established corporate infrastructure, etc. Let's say your tire has a manufacturing defect and you need to return it; what are the chances (a) that you can reach their customer service folks easily, and (b) that they have a dealer near you where you can get it replaced?
Also, there are many, many tires on the market that are very good and very inexpensive. Between the need for safety, and the need for performance, why take the chance?
</TD></TR></TABLE>
very true bro, like they say you get what you payed for. I've been in that situation twice so i know haha. If you want to save some money and get some good performance tires, kuhmo spts are #1. I have the yoko es100s at the moment but my next set of tires will be the kuhmos, compared to the es100s the spts are a tad better in the rain and you save $20 or so on each tire.
nsxtasy will agree.
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With the introduction of the SPT, I am curious to see where Kumho end up this year! Due to the fact that everybody wants them but nobody can get them!
Also quick not Dunlop wasn't even on that pie chart, wonder why?!?
Also quick not Dunlop wasn't even on that pie chart, wonder why?!?
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveSi677 »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dunlop wasn't even on that pie chart, wonder why?!?</TD></TR></TABLE>
Because it's a subsidiary of Goodyear, acquired in 1990.
If you're looking for other brand names... Firestone and Fuzion are owned by Bridgestone (Firestone by acquisition in 1988, Fuzion simply a new brand name introduction), BFGoodrich is owned by Michelin (acquisition, 1988), and General is owned by Continental (acquisition, 1987).
What I don't understand is why Sumitomo was broken out separately. Even though it's not a wholly-owned subsidiary, it operates as part of a consortium with Goodyear, and they (Sumitomo and Goodyear/Dunlop) really consider themselves as part of the same company, as I understand it.
Because it's a subsidiary of Goodyear, acquired in 1990.
If you're looking for other brand names... Firestone and Fuzion are owned by Bridgestone (Firestone by acquisition in 1988, Fuzion simply a new brand name introduction), BFGoodrich is owned by Michelin (acquisition, 1988), and General is owned by Continental (acquisition, 1987).
What I don't understand is why Sumitomo was broken out separately. Even though it's not a wholly-owned subsidiary, it operates as part of a consortium with Goodyear, and they (Sumitomo and Goodyear/Dunlop) really consider themselves as part of the same company, as I understand it.
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they do but they don't.. Our company has a pretty big contract with gdy and dunlop and we can not even purchase a sumitomo from there. we have to buy them from an outside source. And the warehouse around us does not even stock them..
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Because it's a subsidiary of Goodyear, acquired in 1990.
If you're looking for other brand names... Firestone and Fuzion are owned by Bridgestone (Firestone by acquisition in 1988, Fuzion simply a new brand name introduction), BFGoodrich is owned by Michelin (acquisition, 1988), and General is owned by Continental (acquisition, 1987).
What I don't understand is why Sumitomo was broken out separately. Even though it's not a wholly-owned subsidiary, it operates as part of a consortium with Goodyear, and they (Sumitomo and Goodyear/Dunlop) really consider themselves as part of the same company, as I understand it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And is it true FALKEN is a subsidiary of Sumimoto
If you're looking for other brand names... Firestone and Fuzion are owned by Bridgestone (Firestone by acquisition in 1988, Fuzion simply a new brand name introduction), BFGoodrich is owned by Michelin (acquisition, 1988), and General is owned by Continental (acquisition, 1987).
What I don't understand is why Sumitomo was broken out separately. Even though it's not a wholly-owned subsidiary, it operates as part of a consortium with Goodyear, and they (Sumitomo and Goodyear/Dunlop) really consider themselves as part of the same company, as I understand it.</TD></TR></TABLE>
And is it true FALKEN is a subsidiary of Sumimoto
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I worked on an 06 civic the other day at work (honda dealership) and it had 17" rims with linglong tires, i had a good laugh when i saw them but the tread on em looked pretty crazy, i am also curious as to how they would perform.
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