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Old May 3, 2007 | 04:24 PM
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Hey everybody. Just got my first Honda and I'm pretty excited! Just joined to see what is possible with my stock engine, I think it is a D16 or something. Like I said, I'm a noob! But I want to learn more. Its a 99 two door, and auto but eventually I would like to do a drivetrain swap to allow for a 5 speed (I hear auto Hondas aren't very popular). Any help is awesome. Also if you guys and gals have any useful links, it would be appreciated. My plans are to put a turbo on but first I need to gather the knowledge on how to do such a project. I am deffinatly no ricer! I wanna go fast but still have it be my daily commute vehicle. Can good power be made? I guess I will have to see. Any suggestions would be great!
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Old May 3, 2007 | 04:28 PM
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Welcome to the honda community. This site should be used as your bible.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 04:32 PM
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welcome, and learn how to use the search page. there is sooooooo much info on this site.
https://honda-tech.com/zerosearch
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Old May 3, 2007 | 05:10 PM
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A few more question. What does JDM mean? What is EG/EK EF and there a few others I'm not sure of.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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japanese domestic market...an ef is an 88-91 civic body style, an eg is a 92-95 civic body style, and a ek is a 96-00 civic body style. each generation of civics have a code whether its a hatch, coupe, or sedan
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Old May 3, 2007 | 06:03 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95DxSi-R2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">welcome, and learn how to use the search page. there is sooooooo much info on this site.
https://honda-tech.com/zerosearch</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Welcome, there is a ridiculous amount of info on Hondas here.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 06:07 PM
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Welcome and make sure you use the search buttom uptop and check out the stickys on top of the forums. As for your turbo project check out the forced induction forum for some info.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 06:55 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StockWhiteCoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Any suggestions would be great!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sell the car now, before you get to attached. And, buy a manual. This is coming from someone who has done the auto to manual swap.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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You can learn TONS from reading through the threads at the top that are stickied.

Welcome to the honda world, My advice?

Research for months before you do something, you'll end up happier knowing you got what you wanted instead of spending money you didnt end up being happy with.

If your car is stock, i'd sell it and buy a manual.

Then turbo that.


Modified by ek forever guy at 8:57 PM 5/4/2007
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Old May 3, 2007 | 07:00 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You can learn TONS from reading through the threads at the top that are stickied.

Welcome to the honda world, My advice?

Research for months before you do something, you'll end up happier knowing you got what you wanted instead of spending money you didnt end up being happy with.

If your car is stock, i'd sell it and buy a [/B]manual [B]] .

Then turbo that.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old May 4, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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so the auto to 5 speed swap is really that hard, huh? bummer, this is my second civic and both have been stock with autos and i have loved them. I have never driven a manual Honda before but i guess i will soon need to. are the auto transmissions really that crappy? there must be some people with auto hondas running quick times.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 07:37 PM
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just get a manual... don't even bother with a swap i'm not trying to be an *** but seeing how you say you're a newbie to honda's i wouldn't go diving into a drivetrain swap so soon... thats just my .02 but the only way to really learn is to do it... so it's your call

and ya the auto is that bad...
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Old May 4, 2007 | 07:43 PM
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definatley get a 5spd. doin that kinda swap is just a waste of time.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JDMH22HondaPrelude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">definatley get a 5spd. doin that kinda swap is just a waste of time.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old May 4, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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well i still have a few questions. do i have the D16z6? What is VTEC and why is it so great? I have driven both non-VTEC and VTEC Civics and they seemed to feel the same.
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Old May 5, 2007 | 12:00 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StockWhiteCoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also if you guys and gals have any useful links, it would be appreciated.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StockWhiteCoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A few more question. What does JDM mean? What is EG/EK EF and there a few others I'm not sure of. </TD></TR></TABLE>
JDM = Japanese Domestic Market (not parts and cars built in Japan, but parts and cars built to be sold in Japan)
USDM = United States Domestic Market (same as JDM, but for the US instead)
EDM = European Domestic Market
UKDM = United Kingdom Domestic Market

And so on and so forth.

As for the chassis codes... Though some two letter chassis codes are used often to denote a car as a certain generation, those codes might not match up to the actual chassis codes used. For example, though '96-'00 Civics are often referred to as EKs, there are no true EK chassis cars in the US. The '96-'00 hatches for example are all EJ6s.

The codes that are often used to denote a generation of cars are as follows...

EF = used to denote '88-'91 Civics (4th gen)
EG = used to denote '92-'95 Civics (5th gen)
EK = used to denote '96-'00 Civics (6th gen)

Your actual chassis code is printed in your car's VIN (Vehicle Identification NUmber). It is found as the fourth, fifth and sixth digits of the VIN.

To read more about the TRUE chassis codes, read this link:
The Ultimate Honda Chassis Code List
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by StockWhiteCoupe &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">well i still have a few questions. do i have the D16z6? What is VTEC and why is it so great? I have driven both non-VTEC and VTEC Civics and they seemed to feel the same.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Your engine code is stamped on the block of the engine. It's on the front side to the left as you're looking at it from in front of the car.

VTEC isn't always something you're going to feel. Stock SOHC VTEC engines often disply little more than a change in pitch when they hit VTEC.

Here's a link to the Temple of VTEC's article explaining several types of VTEC though. Keep in mind that variable valve timing (VVT) is not unique to Honda, though VTEC is Honda's version.

http://asia.vtec.net/spfeature/vtecimpl/vtec1.html

Just remember one big thing.... before you start going and making a lot of threads to ask questions, search search search search! Google will save you so much hassle. Honda-Tech also has it's own search engine (in the top right corner) but remember there are four different combinations to search for one query. Topic Titles in Recent Content, Topic Titles in Archived Content, Post Bodies in Recent Content and Post Bodies in Archived Content.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 01:38 PM
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thanks NOFX, that was a big help!
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Old May 8, 2007 | 01:40 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 97Ej6mike &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Welcome to the honda community. This site should be used as your bible.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree...haha...
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Old May 8, 2007 | 01:46 PM
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The only reason I didn't recommend the auto/manual swap is it's time consuming, often expensive. And It will Never drive like it came with a 5spd.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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i do have a few more questions, after searching gave me no clear answer. when i see videos of fast drag racing hondas, i tend to see a lot of hatchbacks. i would assume that has to do with some sort of weight issue. i would like to know what the full weight of the coupe, hatchback and 4 door civics. if any one knows the weights of del sols, preludes, integras and crxs.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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Welcome! As everyone said above, just sell yours and get a 5speed. I was once in your boat... My first car was a 98 Eclipse (back in 00) and it was an RS and an Auto so i was at hte bottom of the pitt often getting joked on. Anyways, often times autos sell higher than 5 speeds because it raises the value on kbb or what not. ANyways, I learned the hard way and had invisible hope... meaning I had hope for something that wasn't even there... I then got lucky and traded it straight up for a 2000 Honda Civic and boom... Here i am now...
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Old May 8, 2007 | 01:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only reason I didn't recommend the auto/manual swap is it's time consuming, often expensive. And It will Never drive like it came with a 5spd.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Why do you think a car with an auto to manual swap will nver drive like one that came with a manual stock?
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Old May 8, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOFX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
Why do you think a car with an auto to manual swap will nver drive like one that came with a manual stock?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Maybe it depends on who does the swap. But the 3 i've driven didn't feel right. 1 eg and to Ej6's.

The eg the pedal was too close to the brake pedal, the two eks pedal feel was weird and just felt unnatural. Maybe it's just the installs.
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Old May 8, 2007 | 02:21 PM
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you guys are making me feel like ****... I just did my auto to manual swap now almost 2 months ago... I'm lovin it...

Total swap cost me $400 but thats becuase I had most parts including a 30K mile tranny.. Well yea I could see the swap costing a ton if you have nothing... so yea... I guess not worth it. All worked out great with me though, it's just that this STUPID shift **** keeps coming loose (yea its a walmart one). The **** itself is beautiful and metal (cobra style) but it's the sleeves that come with it that are made of poop plastic..

I grind 3rd sometimes because the stupid **** moves about 3/4 of an inch back and fourth and leads me to believe that it's actually in gear..... Need to go to home depot or something tonight and pick up a plastic sleeve thingy... Anyone have an OEM **** laying around they'd care to donate?
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Old May 8, 2007 | 03:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ek forever guy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe it depends on who does the swap. But the 3 i've driven didn't feel right. 1 eg and to Ej6's.

The eg the pedal was too close to the brake pedal, the two eks pedal feel was weird and just felt unnatural. Maybe it's just the installs.</TD></TR></TABLE>
There's a good possibility that has to do with the install and not that it was an auto to manual swap. I've heard of lots of cars with no problems though I've never knowingly driven a car that had such a swap.
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