Honda Civic / Del Sol (1992 - 2000) EG/EH/EJ/EK/EM1 Discussion

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Old May 2, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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im gonna install my omni power coilovers 2day, but i been reading around and every1 says something about preload the spring? whats that mean?
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Old May 2, 2007 | 09:42 AM
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it means you compress it before you put it in. you need a tool for that unless you're the incredible hulk
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Old May 2, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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Correct.. you can rent a spring compressor from most part stores, like AutoZone.
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Old May 2, 2007 | 09:48 AM
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do u have to preload or no?
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Old May 2, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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if you dont preload it wont go on lol you need to compress the spring so that it will go on now be carefull use the spring compresser correctly because if it comes of and the spring pops out it can kill you no joke ive seen springs fly a good 8 blocks away its actually a good past time shooting springs around the property just be carefull
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Old May 2, 2007 | 09:55 AM
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Performance/lowering springs are typically shorter than stock springs so preloading them isn't necessary to get the assembly together. Otherwise, like stated, you would need a spring compressor to assemble the strut before bolting it in.
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Old May 2, 2007 | 09:58 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkertySkerty &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ive seen springs fly a good 8 blocks away its actually a good past time shooting springs around the property just be carefull</TD></TR></TABLE>

Must be a Louisiana thing
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Old May 2, 2007 | 10:06 AM
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I have full coilovers though, I was thinking of installing them and lower the car alll the way down then adjust it to the way I want it after? Good or bad idea?
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Old May 2, 2007 | 10:51 AM
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BUMP!! need some info
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Old May 2, 2007 | 10:52 AM
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If its the cheap ebay coil overs, the springs arent even loaded until you let the car off the jack stands. but you still need to preload it to make adjustments. how else are you gonna turn the adjusters.
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Old May 2, 2007 | 11:40 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hatchy69 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have full coilovers though, I was thinking of installing them and lower the car alll the way down then adjust it to the way I want it after? Good or bad idea?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Good luck with that. You won't be able to adjust them once they are preloaded with the weight of the vehicle. Which setup is "full coilovers" btw?

Contrary to this statement:

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Rainy City &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">If its the cheap ebay coil overs, the springs arent even loaded until you let the car off the jack stands. but you still need to preload it to make adjustments. how else are you gonna turn the adjusters.</TD></TR></TABLE>

...many adjustable spring/perch combos have shorter springs so they aren't preloaded until the vehicle is down.
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Old May 2, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SkertySkerty &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you dont preload it wont go on lol you need to compress the spring so that it will go on now be carefull use the spring compresser correctly because if it comes of and the spring pops out it can kill you no joke ive seen springs fly a good 8 blocks away its actually a good past time shooting springs around the property just be carefull</TD></TR></TABLE>

amen its fun **** just be careful... my dumb *** cousin shot my front right oem spring all the way down my street i laughed my *** off it was great
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Old May 2, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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actually i think the correct term for pre-loading is zero'ing out the bushings.

You dont need to preload teh springs, they will settle after the car is in motion.

To preload the bushings, you need to either squeze under the car, or jack up all 4 corners by the LCA's, and then tighten the bolts. Its in the helms manual. Im sure tyson knows, since he told me what it was 3 years ago.

When you install the suspension, dont tighten everything. Leave things loose, but attached. Jack up all 4 corners of the car by the LCA's. Then tighten all the bolts, pretty much any bolt you can, loosen then re-torque to spec. This prevents the suspension from "binding" under load.

If you tighten all the bolts while the car is jacked up, and suspension fully extended, the OEM bushings/ball joints will bind. If you dont believe me dont preload the bushings, drive it around for a week, then preload them. you will feel a world of difference.

This usually isnt the case with ES bushings since they can move inside the housing, unlike OEM.
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