Ok so my Eibach sportlines just came via FedEx yesterday (thanks corsportusa), and I'm planning on doing the install this Saturday. This is the first time I've done anything suspension-wise, so I was hoping lowered guys could provide some advice.

As for the install itself, I got the DIY off 8th, and I'm doing my install at my buddies house. He's already lowered 5 or 6 integras, so I'm sure we'll be able to do the job fine.

The real questions I have are about the camber kits / sway bars / dampening / etc...

First off, I know I may need shocks/struts down the road... I'll cross that bridge when I get there. Secondly, I'm aware that a camber kit is desireable, and I may get one in a month or two depending on how bad the wear is. I'm running Neo Gens which are supposed to be Camber-wear resistant, so I want to test them out before spending more money.

The Eibach box says the springs are step 1 of a 3 step lowering system. It says something about a dampening kit (which honestly, I have no idea what the hell this is used for?), and sway bars. Do I really need any of this crap? I'm not going to Auto-X my car, and I may track it a couple of times a year, although I haven't yet. I'm basically just using it as a daily driver, and occasionally I stomp it. I'm not going to throw out a lot of extra money just because the corners might "feel" better in the extremely rare event I want to push my car to its limits. Do I "need" these, or are they just recommended?


Also, I'm assuming I should get an alignment right away? Is the purpose of an alignment to be safe, or is it to make the car ride better? If its safety, I'll get it ASAP, I just wanted some advice on this.

Thanks in advance guys.

 

After any suspension change you "should" get an alignment.
It would be better with a camber kit but i'd be more worried about possible rubbing issues than alignment.

Does your friend have a spring compressor?

 

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It would be better with a camber kit but i'd be more worried about possible rubbing issues than alignment.

Does your friend have a spring compressor?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yes, and air tools.

Edit: Supposedly Z1performance is running the same exact wheels (not color, but design) as me with 225 tires, and Eibach sportlines with no rub. So hopefully I ge the same results here.

 

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Also, I'm assuming I should get an alignment right away? Is the purpose of an alignment to be safe, or is it to make the car ride better? If its safety, I'll get it ASAP, I just wanted some advice on this.

Thanks in advance guys.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, you definitely need an alignment afterwards, becaust TOE is what eat's your tires the most, not camber. It'a OK to have a little camber, because that is what get you through those corners.

Install your springs and go get it aligned an you'll be fine. You wont' need a camber kit unless your ride is dumped and undless you plan on auto-X.

MY EG and DC2 were lowered and I never put on any camber kits, I had no issues whatsoever. I had no premature TIRE wear. My EG was dropped w/ RSR springs from Japan, and my DC2 was dropped w/Skunk2 springs(by the way, they suck ***)

 

I got my car lowered on Saturday. My mechanic said to wait about 2 weeks before getting an alignment to let to springs settle. Makes sense to me.. no?

 

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I was thinking of asking this, but I completely agree.

As for the alignment process, should I take SI specs to them (I read -1.3 Camber read, about -.30 front) or just let them align it themselves? I just read a thread over on 8th where they set his camber settings to 0 and now he rubs like hell. I definitely don't want this happening to my car...

Also, assuming I have no camber kit installed, they will only be able to modify the TOE settings and not the camber settings correct? If I did upgrade to camber arms down the road, would I be able to adjust these by myself, or would I have to take the car back to the shop and get it realigned?

 

i put my springs in high as hell and so far so good. its really a easy. honda made it so you can't screw up. im waiting till they come out w/ some kind of strut (Koni) to install any camber kits. Im just to lazy to pull it all apart again and then have to do it one more time.

 

your struts will be fine for a good while, you dont need the sway bars our cars already have them and the dampener is just for eibach to make more money.

but definately get an alignment, and it doesn't matter if your tires are "camber wear resistant" camber wear is still camber wear and they would last longer if you didn't have camber issues. a camber kit only costs 150? its worth it considering a good tire is now 125+ a piece

 

TOE affects the tires more than camber wear... the camber kit is roughly $200 and my tires are $104 (shipped) a piece for Nitto Neo Gens in 225/40/18. You figure I could replace each tire once for roughly the cost of a camber kit.

 

Eibach says to buy their Dampers and their sway bars just to make money....

do get an alignment after a few days though

camber kit is not necessary really if they can get your alignment within or near spec without it.

as for the guy who said the shop set his camber at 0 i find that hard to believe as they have computer programs that have oem specs as what they are aiming for.