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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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I got a 06 Civic Si and I not real shure witch way to go is. I dont want to have to change really anything huge to do either one. I kinda of a new guy when it comes to stuff like this and was looking for a little advice. What the good and the bad of each. I was looking at the Greddy Turbo kit or the Jackson Racing SC. Thanks for the help.
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 02:02 PM
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So eager to lead to the search button aren't you lol. the word SEARCH should be in BOLD. I learned the hard way lol.
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Old May 1, 2007 | 01:57 PM
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My son has a 2000 si and we turbocharged it with a complete GRetty system w/intercooler. Im not sure what to tell you with the 2006 but the 2000 performs so well I cant describe it. Hardly any lag, and the installation was perfect. I have a 2007 EX Coupe, and I will turbo when time allows (and money!). Whatever you do, make sure it is a quality system!
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Old May 1, 2007 | 04:04 PM
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Just out of curiousity, how often does your son drive his car and how many miles has he put on it with the turbo? I've been thinking about a turbo in the future as well but I keep hearing about how they are unreliable....so yeah....
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Old May 1, 2007 | 04:07 PM
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Tubro sounds like a good choice!
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Old May 1, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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Turbo's are always fun, superchargers are more reliable from what I have read over the years but turbo's are easy to adjust (boost) and installing a full kit is always fun, lol...

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Old May 1, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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you wont get either one and if you do your motor will blow.

read every post in the "forced induction" forum then come back and answer this question yourself.
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Old May 2, 2007 | 06:28 PM
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Daily driver, he drives home monthly which is about a three hour drive. We have had no problems with the turbo (greddy), just change the oil often! We have also paired it up with a full greddy exhaust system, greddy intercooler, and some greddy dress up stuff under the hood. You will be pleased with the turbo I assure you. And the best part, ITS FAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old May 3, 2007 | 05:14 AM
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Well, most everything about the 2000 civic won't apply (except quality of Greddy stuff)

As well as most everything in the forced induction forum. We're dealing with alot of issues that owners of other Hondas are not. Returnless fuel system hasn't been around that long, and the Mass Air setup (vs. speed density from the past) is fairly new, as well as the drive by wire. As it's stated in the thread mike posted above, our big problem right now is the lack of engine management.

if you wanna know forced induction basics, read some of Corky Bell's books. He's got one on Turbos and another on Superchargers. It's alot more condensed than reading through hundreds of pages of people bitching about searching for answers.

*cough*dirtySOHC*cough*
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Old May 3, 2007 | 10:29 AM
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ALL MOTOR BABY!!!
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Old May 3, 2007 | 11:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by huevosrancheros &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ALL MOTOR BABY!!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

eh.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 11:59 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dirtySOHC’s &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">you wont get either one and if you do your motor will blow.

read every post in the "forced induction" forum then come back and answer this question yourself.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Say what???? I have running a supercharger for the last 6 months. My car is daily driver as well. I have not blown my motor yet. In fact, it runs awesome.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hellzcivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Say what???? I have running a supercharger for the last 6 months. My car is daily driver as well. I have not blown my motor yet. In fact, it runs awesome.
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i said that because everyone who asks these basic questions have no clue of whats involved in a boosted setup. they're basically dreaming.

i wasn't saying your motor will blow in general. cmon dude. i have a forced induction background....i know motors wont blow if you do it right.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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it depends on what you like and how you want to build you car. first a supercharger is directly driven by the engine which means there's no ? that as soon as you hit the gas there's power, a turbo is driven by the release gases from the engine which it has to burn after you hit the gas but some of the turbo companies are doing away with the lag associated with turbos. Also there are oil leaks on turbos to deal with because of the added heat the turbo can create compared to the supercharger. so in the end the choice is yours.
(But I like to here the sound of a turbo spool up then blow off)

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Old May 3, 2007 | 01:50 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 06siracer &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">it depends on what you like and how you want to build you car. first a supercharger is directly driven by the engine which means there's no ? that as soon as you hit the gas there's power, a turbo is driven by the release gases from the engine which it has to burn after you hit the gas but some of the turbo companies are doing away with the lag associated with turbos. Also there are oil leaks on turbos to deal with because of the added heat the turbo can create compared to the supercharger. so in the end the choice is yours.
(But I like to here the sound of a turbo spool up then blow off)

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there are a few factors that affect lag but mainly it's the size of the turbo that determines lag. i don't see how companies will get rid of lag....most companies already supply their kits with the most efficient turbos possible without being too small or too big

you will not get around lag....if you don't want lag buy a SC. but if you want greater possible numbers get the opposite.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 04:10 PM
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if you have to ask then your are not educated enough to have either one... read up, learn and stop making these annoying posts.

im not trying to be an *******, im sorry if it comes of this way. but please read and learn to get an understanding.
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Old May 3, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by exhaust_note &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">if you have to ask then your are not educated enough to have either one... read up, learn and stop making these annoying posts.

im not trying to be an *******, im sorry if it comes of this way. but please read and learn to get an understanding.</TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly my thoughts when i initially posted
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Old May 3, 2007 | 08:08 PM
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people post so that they can learn. yes they should read, but they also may not want to read through 500 posts of FI threads of people bickering back and forth about something pointless. the guy asked a simple question. yes its been covered, but it is still a question. this is supposed ot be a board to help educate those who dont know the answer to their question.

as to your question, it really will depend on how much u are willing to spend on it. not just cash, but time as well. a turbo requires more maintenance and a more "religious" attention to changing the oil to ensure longevity of the motor. the supercharger is going to give u ***** of power immediately, but its a bitch to up the boost on it. and dont forget about the sweet sweet music of the BOV from a turbo compared to the whine of a supercharger. it doesnt really matter which way u go, it's goign to be alot of fun and alot of time and money. find someone in ur area that has a SC and someone with turbo, go for a ride and decide which u prefer. or go test drive an srt-4 and saturn ion redline. u might wanna trade it in and go with one of those due to the simple fact that they have warranties on the set up
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Old May 3, 2007 | 11:01 PM
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Thanks for ur help and undestanding... as far a research goes I have looked around and read alot. I was just trying to learn all that I could before I ran off and bought something. Thanks Agin to all.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 02:27 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SMoLiK &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Turbo's are always fun, superchargers are more reliable from what I have read over the years but turbo's are easy to adjust (boost) and installing a full kit is always fun, lol...

SMo'</TD></TR></TABLE>both can be equally reliable
now, it is true that the higher whp car probably won't outlast the lower whp car
it just all comes down to the tuning
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Old May 4, 2007 | 03:15 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95turbodteg &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">people post so that they can learn. yes they should read, but they also may not want to read through 500 posts of FI threads of people bickering back and forth about something pointless. the guy asked a simple question. yes its been covered, but it is still a question. this is supposed to be a board to help educate those who dont know the answer to their question.
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no....

when I went aftermarket on a turbo setup for my evo. i didnt post, ugh what should I do. i searched different setups, cams, turbo sizes, fuel, injectors, engine management. i bookmarked them too, so i could go back and compare. I learned how a turbo worked, what A/R meant and how it affected things.

when i get a problem at work, i dont go ask the other techs what to do, i search bulletins on dealerworld.

heres how it should be. you do alll the resarch , come up w/ a setup. post it all up. say hey, ive done my research. ive picked this size turbo because-, i went w/ this tuner because -.what do you guys think of what I got here. If you guys would change a few things up, what would you do.

thats how it should be.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 01:08 PM
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I BEG TO DIFFER. I mean how do you think the stuff gets around anyway, by people asking ?'s of other people. if you feel like that's the way it should be done then by all means do it to your hearts content, but don't bust a persons chops who joined this forum to learn to get to the level you say your at in tuning your rides. if you want to do it the hard way fine, but some like to go thru the shortcuts that are made.
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Old May 4, 2007 | 01:17 PM
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I think what ExhaustNote's point was... do you want an answer? or do you want to learn something... that's all..
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Old May 4, 2007 | 01:29 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by exhaust_note &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

no....

when I went aftermarket on a turbo setup for my evo. i didnt post, ugh what should I do. i searched different setups, cams, turbo sizes, fuel, injectors, engine management. i bookmarked them too, so i could go back and compare. I learned how a turbo worked, what A/R meant and how it affected things.

when i get a problem at work, i dont go ask the other techs what to do, i search bulletins on dealerworld.

heres how it should be. you do alll the resarch , come up w/ a setup. post it all up. say hey, ive done my research. ive picked this size turbo because-, i went w/ this tuner because -.what do you guys think of what I got here. If you guys would change a few things up, what would you do.

thats how it should be.</TD></TR></TABLE>

exactly

when they ask these basic questions it gets frusrating because it's like they want to be "fed" all the answers. when i do research on this website i search all the threads i can and if something pops out at me like a i look at it. like for instance if someone posted a link within the thread....once you do that you begin to find more links then before you know it you've answered most of your questions.

after that you can post a thread asking more specific questions.

expletive the "this is a board - a community - blah blah blah" SEARCH.....it really works....really!
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