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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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anyone used nitro in tires? does it really benefit you the way its supposed to? ie:longer tire life, better handling, fuel savings, decreased wheel corrosion and increased safety?

Mike if you want to move this feel free.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:11 AM
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I posted soemthing a while back on this at the 01-05 forums lemme see if i can find it..
ahh here it is

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have heard of this. More Tire shops across the nation are offering the option to use nitrogen in the tires instead of compressed air. Many performance-enthused drivers have been using this for years and it is just hitting mainstream now.

The benefits however, unless you are constantly ripping corners on the track are very subtle.


To answer your constant PSI question... the nitrogen reacts less to the air temperature opposed to compressed air which may give you a little better gas mileage over longer trips because tires do heat up quite a bit, but its only minor. (maybe 1-2 mpg).

Nitrogen also cannot oxidize causing inner rot inside the tire (the rust you are talking about). But unless you only drive the car on the weekends you are 99% more likely to wear the tread off before inner rot occurs anyways.

it also costs like $19.99 to fill your tires up with nitrogen?

in my opinion for a daily driver car, its definitely not worth it.

And don't forget... The air is 78% nitrogen!
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:37 AM
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Here's Honda's opinion directly off of Honda Interactive Network.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Nitrogen Inflation: What’s Our Position?
Surf any automobile tire-related website these
days, and you’ll likely see something mentioned
about nitrogen inflation. It’s becoming a hot topic.
We’ve gotten a number of inquiries lately
concerning American Honda’s position on this
practice.
When it comes to inflating automobile tires, it’s
our position that ordinary, dry compressed air—
which is about 80 percent nitrogen already—is
the best choice. That’s because it’s more readily
available, and the benefits of using nitrogen
simply don’t appear to outweigh those of using
compressed air.
The practice of inflating tires with nitrogen really
isn’t anything new; it’s been around a long time.
It’s been commonly used on aerospace vehicles,
commercial and military aircraft, military vehicles,
race cars, and even heavy off-road construction
equipment. Here’s why:
• To meet rigid safety and performance specs,
the required tire inflation pressures are often
very high, especially in the aerospace industry.
The tire inflation pressure for NASA’s space
shuttle, for instance, is a whopping 315 psi!
• Nitrogen is an inert gas; it doesn’t combust or
oxidize.
• The process used to compress nitrogen
excludes water vapor. Water vapor can expand
if the temperature climbs above 212°F.
• Tires inflated with nitrogen leak slower over
time than those inflated with compressed air.
Automobile tires, on the other hand, are subjected
to an entirely different set of conditions. Here’s
why inflating tires with nitrogen offers no real
advantages:
• Although tires inflated with nitrogen leak
slower over time than those inflated with
compressed air, they still leak and need to be
reinflated to maintain proper pressure. If you
can’t find a place that offers nitrogen
inflation—and there aren’t yet all that many
places that do—your only option left is to
reinflate with compressed air. Doing that
drops the nitrogen purity.
• Nitrogen offers no better protection against
road hazards such as cuts and punctures. So
no matter what you inflate the tire with, you
still need to check the condition and pressure
of the tires at least once a month as
recommended in the O/M.
• Tires that are inflated with compressed air and
properly maintained offer the same fuel
economy, tread wear, and ride comfort as
those inflated with nitrogen.
• Nitrogen for automobile tires is produced by
nitrogen generators, which typically get about
95 percent purity. But to actually get that
level of purity into an automobile tire, you
would have to deflate and inflate that tire with
nitrogen several times. If you’re not careful
doing this repeated deflation and inflation
process, the purity level winds up being closer
to 90 percent (compared to the approximate
80 percent nitrogen already in compressed
air). Because of this, those claims of less
pressure loss with nitrogen aren’t valid.
So here’s the bottom line: Nitrogen is an ideal gas
for inflating tires in aircraft, military vehicles, race
cars, and heavy off-road equipment, but when it
comes to automobile tires, it offers no apparent
advantages over ordinary, dry compressed air.
Our advice to you: Just stick with the air you
breathe.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 10:19 AM
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Default Re: Nitrogen in Tires? (FBPSidan)

Ditto what everyone said,

all I heard was that your tires maintain correct pressure longer. That's about it.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 09:45 PM
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I am toyota mechanic and people have said that their mileage is better and the pressure is better. Its supposte to ride better, more or less I think its just a way for a dealership to make more money on old people.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 10:03 PM
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i went down to the wilsonville nissan once, and i overheard the salesmen trying to pitch the whole nitrogen thing to a guy that looked like he could have been in the civil war ha, of course he thought it was a great idea
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