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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 07:43 AM
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I have got a 93 accord lx. and I want a good everyday driver turbo set up. I was told the ideal motor was the h22. Since 2.2l swap. But I dont want to be like every one else I want to be diff. Has anyone even tryed to drop a k20 in a accord? Can it even be done?? Im also having trouble finding k-series mounts for a 93 accord can anyone help me? Im really new at all this just got a FREE 93 accord lx wich looks brand spakin new. Everything is perfict about the car except the auto tran. and this slow f22a1 motor. So if there is anyone who could help me plz do. Im willing to learn as much as I need to. Im looking to spend about 10k-15k on the turbo swap.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 08:17 AM
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if you have deep enough pockets...definately go for the K!

conversely, there's a plethora of infromation from people who've done the H swap and not near as much for the K.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 08:30 AM
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I'm pretty sure HASport was supposed to be working on a set of K series mounts for the 94-97 Accord but I don't know if they ever released them or not. They had a 94-97 Accord with a K series swap on display at some show, I remember seeing pictures of it somewhere on here. Thats the only company I know of that was working on K series mounts for the Accords.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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The accord with the K swap is for sale I believe for 9k?
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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I looked at hasport.com and I didnt see any K-series mounts. I also called but couldent get ahold of anyone. Im going to go with Central Florida Turbo and they said they can do it as long as I can get the mounts. If not I guess I have to go with the H22 and be just like everyone else
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:05 AM
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They have not mass produced those mounts, there is only the one CD5 into existance with it, there has not been a CB with a K swap
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1


http://www.hondasociety.com/bo...pp=30
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:15 AM
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That is one sexy accord. Thats what I want somthing that NO ONE has. I hate being like evryone else. I guess my only bet is talking with hasport to get what I need. Thanx for all the info Muffin Man it helped me out alot.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:21 AM
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what about a k24 swap if you're so set on doing something few others have done? if you plan on doing a turbo i've heard so many bad things about boosting h22, if you want something that not many others have done you could always do the h22 head on the f22 block. great potential for boost and definate reliability
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:22 AM
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YAY!! I found out from haspot that you can put a k swap in my 93 accord. you have to use factory mounts except for the left driver side has to be a prelud mount.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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wait, what?

They said you can use stock 90-93 Accord mounts and a Prelude driver side mount to mount a K series into a 90-93 Accord?

Sounds like there was some miscommunication cause thats what a H swap into the Accord consists of and, I'm no expert but, I don't think the K series engine uses the same or similar mounts as the H series.
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lol yeah sorry accord93lx, that's for the H22 the K series is COMPLETELY DIFFERENT they don't sell those
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accord93lx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Thats what I want somthing that NO ONE has. I hate being like evryone else.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Unfortunately, you drive a Honda. Uniqueness is essentially non-existent.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:34 AM
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Im still doing my research Im not ready to do this for another 4 or 5 months but I want this car done right. I dont want to try taking diff. bottom end and put diff. top end on it. I want a motor that was designed togeather. Not a 1/2 *** job. I want this swap done right the 1st time. So that I dont have to go back and pay more money to fix somthing that should have be done right from the start. I have thought about just puting a v tech head on my f22a1 and turbo that but I dont want the stock motor. I want somthing that no one else has done BUT DONE RIGHT.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 10:38 AM
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Umm, the K swap was done, and was done right, it was done by the guys at Hasport.

The G22 which is what I'm guessing you're referring to headswap wise has been done.

The H22 has been done and been done right

Plenty of turbos have been done.

There's almost nothing that has not been done. The K swap was really the last one and it was completed but is not commercially available.

The link I posted above is the ONLY K swapped accord out there.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 11:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheMuffinMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The link I posted above is the ONLY K swapped accord out there. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, maybe the only one in America...
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 11:49 AM
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If you wanna go turbo then boost your F22
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accord93lx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im still doing my research Im not ready to do this for another 4 or 5 months but I want this car done right. I dont want to try taking diff. bottom end and put diff. top end on it. I want a motor that was designed togeather. Not a 1/2 *** job. I want this swap done right the 1st time. So that I dont have to go back and pay more money to fix somthing that should have be done right from the start. I have thought about just puting a v tech head on my f22a1 and turbo that but I dont want the stock motor. I want somthing that no one else has done BUT DONE RIGHT.</TD></TR></TABLE>

VTEC = honda engine.

V-TECH = phone.

what do you plan on doing with this car once it's built? do you want something different just to say you have it or are you going to use it as a track car or somesuch?

as it has been stated before, just about everything has been done before, so being original simply with a swap is very difficult. best of luck finding what you want tho.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 12:31 PM
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phil I was under the impression that was the only one?

is there another outside the US?
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 12:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by philadd &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Unfortunately, you drive a Honda. Uniqueness is essentially non-existent.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not really if you have the drive and the money to do it. trust me.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 01:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by accord93lx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> Im really new at all this
Im looking to spend about 10k-15k on the turbo swap.</TD></TR></TABLE>
You could probably get a shop to do a turbo K-swap for $15000. In my opinion that's a horrible investment, and there's no guarantee that it will be done right the first time, seeing as nobody has swapped a K into your gen. accord before. If you want reliability and power I don't see anything wrong with a NA H22, even though you won't have turbo, there will be plenty of power for a "everyday driver"
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 02:41 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by TheMuffinMan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">phil I was under the impression that was the only one?

is there another outside the US?</TD></TR></TABLE>

Someone in Japan did it before Hasport did. I'll have to find the webpage again. The page was all in Japanese I think.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -RedneckDave- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Not really if you have the drive and the money to do it. trust me.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah, I know. I'm just against the whole idea of trying to be unique when it comes to motor swaps. If it was for a show car, I could understand. But for a daily driver, well, just how many people are going to see under the hood, ya know? If someone wanted to be one of the first to do a swap primarily because it had higher potential in regards to performance, then I'm all for it.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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actually. i was thinking about it. if you want something genuinely original...

a mid-engine RWD k-powered accord. if you have themoney you claim and have a few friends with fabrication skills - that'd be kickass.

a fellow did a mid-engine RWD integra out of his garage. it was really impressive.

there's my .02

i'll try and find the link, if you'd like.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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Here's the mid-engine, H22 powered Integra you were talking about:
https://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=981613

And as for the other K-powered Accord, here it is (although I don't know what language it's in):
http://www.grandprixgroup.com/...d=844
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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thats the accord hasport brought to sema last year! f-in sexy
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