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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 09:42 PM
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Default Carbon fiber hood had water spots, looked like clearcoat fading.

I've had a Vis carbon fiber hood on my CRV for years and I noticed spots developing on it last fall. It looked like the clearcoat was oxidizing or fading, but the spots were prominent around where the windshield washer fluid squirters are. I was pissed, I thought I needed to have the hood recleared. I kinda thought they could be water spots, or some other type of moisture spot, and thats what I was hoping for and it turns out they were. Anyway, I took some cleaner wax and it took almost all of them off. Ill hit it with the claybar when I clay and wax the whole car in a few weeks.

Anyway, pretty stupid post I guess, but I was wondering if anyone else had a similar problem. I was pissed with the way my hood looked and just a couple minutes had it looking great. I should have snapped pics for reference though.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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Sounds like my oem hood.

I might have to give that a try, I used meguires gold class wax but the spots didn't go away.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 10:47 PM
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Wax isn't meant to remove paint imperfections.

If you have waterspots on your paint, I'd recommend a polish. If that doesn't work, you might want to move up to a compound instead.

Cleaner wax is basically a wax and polish in one. It's not the best product out there because polish is used to remove wax.

Use a polish on the area and then folow up with the wax (which is meant to protect, not clean).

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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 10:50 PM
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nice, mine doesnt have winshield washer holes, but ill try it when these hoods notoriouly fade
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 11:24 PM
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Remember that carbon fiber hoods and other carbon fiber products don't always have a clearcoat. Some have a gelcoat instead. It seems sometimes the same products you might use for a clearcoat can make gelcoats appear frosted.

So I'd recommend a patch test beforehand, preferably in an inconspicuous area.
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Old Apr 20, 2007 | 11:46 PM
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Mine is doing it to
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 09:56 AM
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NOFX. I used polish after the cleaner wax. Then I used sealer wax. I plan on using a claybar when I have more time to clay the whole car and then do cleaner wax, polish, then sealer wax.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 01:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BSIXTEENSOFAST &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">NOFX. I used polish after the cleaner wax. Then I used sealer wax. I plan on using a claybar when I have more time to clay the whole car and then do cleaner wax, polish, then sealer wax.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Then the cleaner wax wasn't really needed unless you have an incredibly gentle polish you used afterwards (therefore making it unable to remove the waterspots itself).
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 11:12 PM
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Cool, thanks for the advice. I can still see some of them if I look at it at in a certain light. Maybe the claybar will get rid of the rest of them...

Oh BTW, I like your detailing thread. Nice work, those cars came out great and that is some very helpful information.
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 12:21 AM
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Np and glad to help.

If you can't get all of the waterspots out, be prepared to use a compound. I like 3M's Perfect-It II Rubbing Compound.

Again though, patch test it somewhere out of sight. If you can't find decent products at your local auto parts store (which is likely - they often sell mostly the lower Meguiar's line), call up your local auto body supply shop. They will usually have better stuff, but be prepared that it's likely it will cost more than the cheap stuff too.

The Perfect-IT II recommends you, "Remove compound swirl marks using 3M Perfect-It 3000 Swirl Swirl Mark Remover PN 06064 by hand or wth a 3M Foam Polishing Pad."
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Old May 2, 2007 | 02:27 PM
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i think i have the same problem. theres white haze spots on the hood and i wasnt sure how to get them out
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Old May 2, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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why not try a bottle of marina boat wax? it can't save every cf hood, but i've seen it bring out some hoods very nicely.
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Old May 2, 2007 | 03:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by kidsafe yee &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">why not try a bottle of marina boat wax? it can't save every cf hood, but i've seen it bring out some hoods very nicely.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Wax protects paint. Polish cleans it. Use the polish first to remove the watermarks and then use the wax to protect it.

Meguiar's has a boat line that comes in blue bottles. You could probably find it in a boat care shop or a body supply shop perhaps. Most body supply shops can order anything they don't have in stock too.
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Old May 2, 2007 | 04:48 PM
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so what exactly is the best method of removing these spots? What polish should i use and how should i use it?
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Old May 2, 2007 | 04:53 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18bteg14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">so what exactly is the best method of removing these spots? What polish should i use and how should i use it?</TD></TR></TABLE>
The polish I just mentioned (Meguiar's marine polish - it's in a blue bottle).

How you should use it: Directions are on the bottle. Use an applicator pad to apply it and micrefober cloths to remove it. Test in a spot not usually visible first in case it does things you don't want it to do.

Follow with wax, which will protect the hood and your work.
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Old May 2, 2007 | 06:43 PM
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^^ this man is on his game
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Old May 2, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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ok im gunna try it. where can i buy that polish? do they carry it at walmart or something like that?
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Old May 2, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18bteg14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok im gunna try it. where can i buy that polish? do they carry it at walmart or something like that?</TD></TR></TABLE>
No. I keep giving you the information. It is all in this thread.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NOFX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Wax protects paint. Polish cleans it. Use the polish first to remove the watermarks and then use the wax to protect it.

Meguiar's has a boat line that comes in blue bottles. You could probably find it in a boat care shop or a body supply shop perhaps. Most body supply shops can order anything they don't have in stock too.</TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old May 2, 2007 | 07:14 PM
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kragen carries the meguiars boat polish, wax, etc line up. saw it there today
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Old May 2, 2007 | 07:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by go2sleep &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">kragen carries the meguiars boat polish, wax, etc line up. saw it there today</TD></TR></TABLE>
Kragen isn't in PA.

http://www.cskauto.com/StoreLocator.aspx

I worked in an Advance Auto Parts on the east coast a few years ago and they didn't carry any marine products (okay, so we had two bottles there... but they weren't even on the shelf and weren't on the planogram).
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Old May 2, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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yea i have no idea what a kragen is haha. sorry for asking again i didnt see it further up in the thread. thanks though
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Old May 2, 2007 | 07:31 PM
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cant you just go to a paint shop and get a reclearcoat on the cf hood?
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Old May 2, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b18bteg14 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">yea i have no idea what a kragen is haha. sorry for asking again i didnt see it further up in the thread. thanks though</TD></TR></TABLE>
It's related to Advance Auto Parts, but not enough that the stores keep the same exact items in stock.
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Old May 2, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mhollaek9 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">cant you just go to a paint shop and get a reclearcoat on the cf hood?</TD></TR></TABLE>
That's equivalent of having dirty paint and so you repaint the car.

Plus not all carbon fiber has clearcoat. Some of gelcoats (same as the stuff on boats).
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Old May 4, 2007 | 07:26 PM
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go to partsamerica.com (kragen, schucks, checkers etc)

http://www.partsamerica.com/Se...arine

----click on the meguiars marine products link

---put in your zip and bam, see if you they stock it at a local store and pick it up
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