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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 07:36 PM
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Ok me and my friend switch out my tail lights and we tested them see if it worked as it should, everything is great so far. NOW.... my blinkers function as break lights when i hit the breaks. but still function as blinkers when the blinker is on. but when i hit the breaks they shut off and function like break lights ALONG with my break lights lol.. anyone know?
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 08:09 PM
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some of wires are not at the right place. Check the wires and make sure they go in the proper whole leading to the proper bulb.

You didn't get altezzas did you?
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 08:47 PM
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plug the bulbs back in the right hole. jesus christ.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 09:04 PM
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Maybe you didnt read. i did test to check if all the lights functioned properly. THEY DID. and no i didnt get altezzas i got stock ones to replace the old warn out ones for a while.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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Default Re: blinkers function as break lights? (DeadEnd9009)

the bulbs on the lights came preinstalled and all i had to do was unscrew. mount, screw, plug the harnesses in. thats it.
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 09:37 PM
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Default Re: blinkers function as break lights? (cycoclown)

then you must of plugged the harness in wrong. Its not like there are that many possibilities here. you didnt mess with the wiring did you?
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 09:40 PM
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use your old harness
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Old Apr 18, 2007 | 10:01 PM
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didnt mess with the wiring one bit. it worked fine up to a couple of days ago. could a fuse be out?
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 08:29 PM
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Well plugging the harness is wrong doesnt explain why the blinker signals on the dash light up, ill get a video of it on youtube here soon
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 10:05 PM
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HERES THE VIDEO. SOME PARTS IT SEEMS DARK BUT U WILL GET THE PICTURE.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEQpC-pg5Ok

Just uploaded it so it might not be ready.
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Old Apr 21, 2007 | 12:51 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cycoclown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok me and my friend switch out my tail lights and we tested them see if it worked as it should, everything is great so far. NOW.... my blinkers function as break lights when i hit the breaks. but still function as blinkers when the blinker is on. but when i hit the breaks they shut off and function like break lights ALONG with my break lights lol.. anyone know?</TD></TR></TABLE>

sounds like your electrical knowledge is on the same level as your spelling.
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 09:29 PM
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Well, i actually know little electrical. ill admit im not the smartest, but i do know wiring is NOT the problem here, ive came to the conclusion that it might be the combo switch, Also tell me this. If the wiring is fucked up? then why where they working correctly before?
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 09:50 PM
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the outer tail light is supose to blink too when pressing the break..switch the two around...
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 09:56 PM
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see the thing is. only one is able to function at one time. there can't be a short. it never did this till a couple of days after i put the new lights in. even before i could break, and have the tail lights on, AND BTW. i tried using the old tail lights. same **** happens. in the video u can see that the blinker signals on the dash come on as i pump the breaks.
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Old Apr 22, 2007 | 11:55 PM
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Bulbs that function as running lights/brakes or running lights/blinker have 2 seperate filaments (circuits) inside them, IE two little lead nubs at the end. Your blinker and break circuits should not be interconnected. Use an ohm meter to determine if the pre-wired lights somehow combine the circuits; there should be infinite resistance (no connection) between the hot wire of the blinker and hot wire of the brake light when disconnected from the car.
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Old Apr 23, 2007 | 04:58 AM
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Okay i know you said that you don't have a ton of electrical experiance, but you need to trace your wiring for your turn signal circuit while the brakes are depressed. It sounds like you have a cross short to power causing your blinkers to come on when you press on the brakes. I just had this problem at work it was on a toyota tundra but still the same problem. Thats my advice hope it helps.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:27 AM
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ima try that today, going to be a pain in the ***, About the combo switch, Could something be going bad in it? my neighbor that owns a shop said 90% of the time those go bad.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:36 AM
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Easiest... switch back to your old setup and see if the problem goes away.

My guess;
This isn't a switched bulb thing, if it were the blinkers would be on low filament when the park lights are on and they would get brighter when the brake is pressed.

It looks like the brake and blinker wires on the taillight harness are switched. Must be an aftermarket tail light set.

which car is this? I can tell you which wire colors are what on the chassis harness side. Then you can switch the locations on the tail light harness to work the way it should.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 07:47 AM
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1997 Civic EX Coupe. i tried the old setup allready, still does the same ****
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 02:17 PM
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make sure that the black wire is grounded. If it isn't it could cause something strange like this.

right turn - green/yellow
left turn - green/red
tail light - red/black
brake light - green/white

NOTE: your brake lights and park lights do not run though the combination switch so there is no way it can cause this.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Relic1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">make sure that the black wire is grounded. If it isn't it could cause something strange like this.

right turn - green/yellow
left turn - green/red
tail light - red/black
brake light - green/white

NOTE: your brake lights and park lights do not run though the combination switch so there is no way it can cause this.</TD></TR></TABLE>

lol i know that.... i went to honda and they said something with my headlights maybe the problem?
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 05:29 PM
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sounds like a grounding problem to me.
probe the ground wire at the tail lamp(wire to the new harness) with a test light(yes the ground), and see what happens.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 08:05 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by cycoclown &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ima try that today, going to be a pain in the ***, About the combo switch, Could something be going bad in it? my neighbor that owns a shop said 90% of the time those go bad.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Sorry it took so long to get back to you. Yes it could be inside the switch, however im not sure if that is a comon problem. like i said this happened last week at work on a tundra. On trucks and suv's this problem usually happens in the trailer light harness. Since we are dealing with a honda here i hope you don't have a trailer light harness. so i would thy and look at your wiring where the blinker and brake light wires are ran and inspect them to see if there is anywhere they are getting pinched or are starting to get worn due to vibrations rubbing against something. And now that i think about it longer, i don't know how the wires would cross in the switch but i guess im not for sure that it cant happen. if you have anymore questions or thought post or send me a pm i will try and help. oh and the thing about it being a ground if it were shorting to ground you would blow a fuse. This problem is for sure a cross short to power somewhere.
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Old Apr 26, 2007 | 11:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LS-V Turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

oh and the thing about it being a ground if it were shorting to ground you would blow a fuse. This problem is for sure a cross short to power somewhere.</TD></TR></TABLE>i didnt say he was grounding a hot wire. more that he is LACKING a good clean ground. all i ask is that he try to reground the lamps before he starts replacing **** he doesnt need
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Old Apr 28, 2007 | 10:26 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NastyHabitzCRX &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i didnt say he was grounding a hot wire. more that he is LACKING a good clean ground. all i ask is that he try to reground the lamps before he starts replacing **** he doesnt need</TD></TR></TABLE>

im sorry i didn't understand what you were refering to. i wasn't trying to hate on you.
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