welll guys as of now my fallken Azenis have come to the end of their lives! almost no tread left on them so it has come to that sad time to replace them! but I came up to a new problem im rocking falken azenis Rt-215 (best tires ever made) and now I realize they are discontinued so please guys help me find another set of Falken azenis rt-215 for a good deal!!! I own a 89 civic sir converted and my car is old school so I want to continue everything in the same sence so new school azenis old school ones even tho extremely rare I can live with that

the size is 195/60/R14 86H

thanks guys I really need a set, scca tournaments have started and I need to race!!! with old school falkens

 

Just get the new Azenis RT-615. It's even better than the old Azenis.

 

Why would you want the old rt-215 when the rt-615 are so much better in everyway possible?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DaveSi677 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why would you want the old rt-215 when the rt-615 are so much better in everyway possible?</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nsxtasy &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just get the new Azenis RT-615. It's even better than the old Azenis.
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don't like the thread on them! plus im used to the old ones my other rims had the new ones and to me it made a difference and I didin't like them! im used to the old ones

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JcDrMx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> my other rims had the new ones and to me it made a difference and I didin't like them!</TD></TR></TABLE>
when you ran the 615's what didnt you like about them?

and tread design is a pretty lame reason...

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Voyage34 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
when you ran the 615's what didnt you like about them?

and tread design is a pretty lame reason...</TD></TR></TABLE>

well the old specs are more race minded! and the wallls are thicker and hold heat way better, the new ones are more flash and street minded not full race!, and the walls aren't as strong as the 215's

 

what about the specs is more "race minded"?

the only thing ive heard regarding heat with either tire is that they both have a tendancy to overheat and get greasy/slippery over multiple runs at an autocross situation, with the 615 managing heat better and overheating less. holding heat isnt always beficial.
plus, every comparison ive ever seen says the 615's are the faster tire

in either case, will you be actually driving on a track in a race situation or just m4d tyte tougay mountain runs that you need a full race tire? if the former, look into Rcomps if your class allows, even the azenis are a compromise for the street.

 

welll wisconsin weather isn't really hot! so the tires control heat way better! a summer day might be like 78 degrees out at the track pluss I started scca already so they will be for racing, and street mod allows azenis! and Ive gotten so used to them I want to keep them the same........

 

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don't like the thread on them! plus im used to the old ones my other rims had the new ones and to me it made a difference and I didin't like them! im used to the old ones </TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow I never heard of some one complaining about how a tire looks! I guess you are more Form over Function.

You would rather have the old RT215 over the new and improved (in everyway possible) RT 615. That is just ridiculous!

Either way you won't be able to get your hands on any RT 215 as THEY HAVE BEEN REPLACED by the RT 615. So I guess you will have to find a better looking tire!

 

oh trust me im going to find them!!!!! and the old 215's have been better in everyway possible ppl who have tried both like the old ones better! and I have asked most of the scca racers in my class and higher classes and they all agree with me plus would you put on rota slipstreams just because you can't find the real rega evos! I wouldn't and I won't the same goes for the 615's still llooking for 215's don't care what any of you say <U>all im asking is for help finding them thats all!!!!!</U>

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JcDrMx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the old 215's have been better in everyway possible</TD></TR></TABLE>

No, they're not. It's exactly the opposite.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JcDrMx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ppl who have tried both like the old ones better!</TD></TR></TABLE>

Not true.

And that's not just my opinion, and the opinion of others who have tried both. That's also the conclusion that Grassroots Motorsports reached when they tested them side by side. The new Azenis are better, period. Shorter lap times, better resistance to heat, better grip in the rain.

So please don't go around spouting off claims that just aren't true. And please read the article in Grassroots Motorsports before you post that nonsense again.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JcDrMx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I have asked most of the scca racers in my class and higher classes and they all agree with me</TD></TR></TABLE>

I seriously doubt that.

Ask racers whether they would rather use newly-manufactured tires, or tires that have been sitting around for a few years (which, now, means all the old Azenis) and 100 out of 100 will tell you they would rather use the new ones.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JcDrMx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...scca racers in my class and higher classes...</TD></TR></TABLE>most people in SM will be on hoosier or kumho Rcompounds- ACTUAL "full race" tires, and "higher classes" (i/e prepared &modified) are on slicks, so you'd be at a severe disadvantage on azenis
so if you arent going to be competitive, why insist on old, near-impossible to find street tires when the new/improved version is readily available?

good luck in your search i guess

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JcDrMx &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">and I have asked most of the scca racers in my class and higher classes and they all agree with me plus would you put on rota slipstreams just because you can't find the real rega evos! I wouldn't and I won't the same goes for the 615's still llooking for 215's don't care what any of you say </TD></TR></TABLE>

I can't believe how misinformed you are! First of the Rega Evo and Rota Slipstreams are both copies of the Spoon SW338. So I wouldn't care which set I had on my car as both are fake replicas!

You say you asked scca racers in higher classes and they say the rt215 is better then the rt615. First off they use R compounds so they want the stickiest tire available to them meaning they would not go for a old discontinued tire like the rt215! Scca racer in higher classes tend to be tire ****** such as Nsxtasy

I dough they would recommended you the old version of the Azenis over the new one unless they want you to be competitive!

I am think that this thread has reached its maximum! I don't think it will serve any purpose continuing to argue with you. You can enjoy your quest on finding tires that are discontinued 2 years actually you will be the only fool looking for them and thinking they are better then the new rt615!

Good luck and I hope along the way you wake up and smell the coffee!