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y8 tranny does not feel like a z6 tranny (HX trans in disguise b000)

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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 08:21 AM
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Ok, to make the long story short...im running a y8 tranny on my z6 engine.
The thing is when I had the z6 tranny I would slam into second and I would hold redline and bounce off the rev limiter all the way through till I shifted to 3rd...Now that im running a y8 tranny its feels soooo differnt. Every single gear feels sooo long and when I shift into 2nd the rpms drop to about 5k and it feels slower...

Anybody ever have this prob or can it be something else?...nothing else on my setup was changed at all...just the tranny and a new ball joint passenger side.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 08:38 AM
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well the z6 tranny is more ball z than the y8.. is it lsd???
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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Both are non lsd...

And for the record before anybody asks....the tranny code is p4a/b000 96-00 vtec tranny.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 08:39 AM
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They're the same ratios and final drive. Perhaps your clutch was slipping?
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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Well, im aware that they are suposed to have the same gear ratios, but there is no way my clutch is slipping...act 6 puck with less than 10k miles.

And arent your rpms suposed to go up when slipping not down?...
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 08:46 AM
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Well, it was a little difficult to figure out exactly what you were experiencing, and since both transmissions have the same ratios, it sounds as if your clutch may have been slipping in the past. When you shift, your car shouldn't "hold redline", the RPMs should drop exactly as you've described.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 08:47 AM
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this is a stupid question but what is the difference between a z6 and a y8?
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 08:49 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SpeedoKing &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">this is a stupid question but what is the difference between a z6 and a y8? </TD></TR></TABLE>

Just two different versions of the 1.6L SOHC VTEC D-series. The Y8 is found in the newer 6th gen. Civics.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 08:53 AM
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It's very rare, but a few 96-00 HX transmissions have the b000 stamp. (same markings on the outside as a y8 ex trans)

what mph does your 2nd gear end?
what rpm, what tire size.

if you can get me the three things above, I can figure out what transmission you have.

Anything else is going to be worthless in finding out which trans.

SO GO FIND OUT


i'm betting that it's the hx trans
1st = 3.25
2nd = 1.782
3rd = 1.172
4th = 0.909
5th = 0.702
fnl = 3.7222


a few HX's even came with 3.25 final drives
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 08:54 AM
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Ok well, Im boosting 15psi and always used to spin all the way through 2nd. I dont think I was ever slipping because it would bounce of the limiter and id be spinning like crazy...and I can actually feel the loss in power with this new tranny. Its so hard to explain lol.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 08:56 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's very rare, but a few 96-00 HX transmissions have the b000 stamp. (same markings on the outside as a y8 ex trans)

what mph does your 2nd gear end?
what rpm, what tire size.

if you can get me the three things above, I can figure out what transmission you have.

Anything else is going to be worthless in finding out which trans.

SO GO FIND OUT


i'm betting that it's the hx trans
1st = 3.25
2nd = 1.782
3rd = 1.172
4th = 0.909
5th = 0.702
fnl = 3.7222


a few HX's even came with 3.25 final drives </TD></TR></TABLE>

Ok, I think ill do that right now lol...be back in a few.


Modified by elcangripapi at 10:22 AM 4/15/2007
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 09:05 AM
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I knew Bense would chime in here. You better hope you dont have a hx/y5 tranny.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 09:06 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by elcangripapi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ok well, Im boosting 15psi and always used to spin all the way through 2nd. I dont think I was ever slipping because it would bounce of the limiter and id be spinning like crazy...and I can actually feel the loss in power with this new tranny. Its so hard to explain lol.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Hmm, I'm not really sure what the issue could be then, assuming that it is indeed a Y8 transmission. Let us know what Bense's information turns up.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 09:23 AM
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ok, well my 2nd gear tops out at 75mph at 7500 rpm and as for the rims...16" slipstreams, same as when I had the z6 tranny.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 09:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by elcangripapi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">ok, well my 2nd gear tops out at 75mph at 7500 rpm.</TD></TR></TABLE>


Uh oh... that sounds like a hx/y5 tranny.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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you got yourself a hx trans. if there's a vin number on it, i bet it has EJ7 in it

I'm editing this thread title to make it easier for searching
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 09:34 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -Todd- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Uh oh... that sounds like a hx/y5 tranny. </TD></TR></TABLE>

sure does second in my z6 was around 55-60
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 09:40 AM
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vin number is s40-1192676

edit: I may be confusing the bar code for the vin? idk if they are the same...
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 09:43 AM
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Where did you get the transmission from?

:edit:

What happened to the thread title? lol
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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A guy off h-t (jayman66)...hes in jacksonville, fl...im in kissimmee, fl. we met half way...I think ill be calling him back today &gt;.&lt;
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 09:50 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -Todd- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">:edit:

What happened to the thread title? lol </TD></TR></TABLE>

was edited by bense =p
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 09:53 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by elcangripapi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

was edited by bense =p</TD></TR></TABLE>


I just noticed that, I thought someone pulled a funny.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 10:23 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by -Todd- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I just noticed that, I thought someone pulled a funny. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well, i was making it search friendly but felt like putting a little bit of humor into it.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by elcangripapi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">vin number is s40-1192676 edit: I may be confusing the bar code for the vin? idk if they are the same...</TD></TR></TABLE>

that's the bar code #. look for the green stamp metal thing. it's pretty gnarly.


look in the bottom left of this pic for an example (only pic i got)
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 10:25 AM
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we talked and he has no prob replacing it with the correc tranny...he says it was a honest mistake and I beleive him...the tranny does infact have the same code as a y8 tranny so it fooled me aswell.

Also he says he personaly took it out of a 98 ex with the stock y8 so...idk...well see what happens.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 10:32 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Bense &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Well, i was making it search friendly but felt like putting a little bit of humor into it.

that's the bar code #. look for the green stamp metal thing. it's pretty gnarly.


look in the bottom left of this pic for an example (only pic i got)
</TD></TR></TABLE>

I looked all around the tranny and it does not have that tag anywhere on it. I also checked out the z6 tranny i had lying around and that tranny does not have one either.
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