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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 02:42 PM
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So im looking to go ls/vtec in the future. But im also gonna go vortech supercharged too. So the question is...if i get the Vortech first for my '97 LS, and decide to later on slap on a b16 head, will the supercharger still fit? Maybe little to no modification? Or should i get a vortech supercharger for a b16 and will it fit on my LS?
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 03:46 PM
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 04:27 PM
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Default Re: Vortech for LS still fit with a b16 head? (djtsmith007)

Bolt patterns will be different, I'm pretty sure the LS is different from any of them,
But I know for Sure that the b16/ITR are the same, but different from the gsr.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 04:57 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by CleanLikeJdm &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Bolt patterns will be different, I'm pretty sure the LS is different from any of them,
But I know for Sure that the b16/ITR are the same, but different from the gsr.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Unlike the Jackson racing roots type supercharger that bolts on to the IM, Vortech is a centrifugal and has nothing to do with the engine intake manifold.

To OP: it will still work because the position of the throttle body does not change.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 07:11 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. Carbon Fiber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unlike the Jackson racing roots type supercharger that bolts on to the IM, Vortech is a centrifugal and has nothing to do with the engine intake manifold.

To OP: it will still work because the position of the throttle body does not change.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Cool. thats exactly what i needed to know. thanks
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 02:28 PM
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Old Apr 14, 2007 | 03:45 PM
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Default Re: Vortech for LS still fit with a b16 head? (djtsmith007)

Why did you bump when you said just above that was what you needed to know?
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 10:33 AM
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Default Re: Vortech for LS still fit with a b16 head? (Blu99teg)

wanted to make sure no one else had any input.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 10:46 AM
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Default Re: Vortech for LS still fit with a b16 head? (djtsmith007)

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woah there sparky.

The LS head and the b16 head have different power steering pump brackets. Me thinks that the vortech unit bolts up to the power steering holes..... so, therefore, I don't think the LS vortech will bolt to the b16 head. (of course, not straight up, prolly wouldn't take much to modify it though)

I'd buy the kit for the b16. Then make it work with your LS. That's gonna be the easier of the two I'd imagine. The only problem that I forsee, is that you are gonna run into problems with the drive belt attachment.

If you have the money for the supercharger, why not just do the VTEC head first? Or go supercharged, and just stay LS/super.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 12:53 PM
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Default Re: Vortech for LS still fit with a b16 head? (pvt_awol)

IM prob. gonna go ls/vtec 1st. Then to vortech super.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 02:16 PM
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Default Re: Vortech for LS still fit with a b16 head? (djtsmith007)

The Vortech unit for an LS, and the d16z6 (m45), are completely different from the b16/ ITR/ GSR (m62) supercharger, as well as a different kit coming w/ it for your particular engine. I would contact the manufacturer or ask this question in the forced induction forum, before you make this investment.
You don't want the m45 anyway, as it can only safely run 10psi. M62 can be run upwards of 10psi without mods.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 02:37 PM
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Default Re: Vortech for LS still fit with a b16 head? (Leo.C)

^^^^^ to bad the superchargers your talking about (m45/62) are with the jackson racing kit while the vortech is a centrifugal type blower. and doesnt bolt up to the intake manifold
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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yea just to clarify, im talking about Vortech Superchargers not Jackson Racing
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Mr. Carbon Fiber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

Unlike the Jackson racing roots type supercharger that bolts on to the IM, Vortech is a centrifugal and has nothing to do with the engine intake manifold.

To OP: it will still work because the position of the throttle body does not change.</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 07:23 PM
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....no it still doesn't work. The Vortech kit uses a drive shaft to spin the charger. The shaft runs across the front of the head, and the bracket for it attaches to the stock power steering location. Then the power steering pump bolts to that.

The LS and the VTEC heads have 2 different types of bolting pattern for the power steering, that is why the thing won't bolt up to both heads. I'm sure that modifying it would only include this bracket, but why mess with it?
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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Default Re: Vortech for LS still fit with a b16 head? (pvt_awol)

Im just gonna get the b16 vortech anway, cause i just bought a b16a2 head.
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Old Apr 16, 2007 | 05:30 AM
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Default Re: Vortech for LS still fit with a b16 head? (djtsmith007)

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there ya go. Should have no problems.
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