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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 08:50 PM
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Hi, im really lost to what a sway bar exactly does in the rear.

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My friends 94 civic coupe dosent have one but my 96 gsr integra does? How do the effect handeling?

I searched but came up with nothing. If someone could spell it out to me in laymans terms it would be greatly apreshiated!
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 09:28 PM
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in simple form (not simplest, im sure someone else can word it better), swaybars control lean and add to handling balance while leaving the straightline spring rate low, keeping the ride soft and comfortable.
a swaybar controls body roll/lean by adding spring rate under roll (cornering) conditions. everything else constant, adding a sway bar to the rear would increase rear stiffness proportional to the front, allowing the car easier rotation.
but everything has proportions. your friends's gsr has a big (24mm) front sway bar and only a little 14mm rear bar, making the car more prone to understeer.
hth
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Old Apr 10, 2007 | 09:46 PM
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it adds more springrate, only when leaning/turning. the net effect is it reduces body roll at that axle.
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 01:35 AM
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Default Re: Sway Bar Function? (Voyage34)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Voyage34 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in simple form (not simplest, im sure someone else can word it better), swaybars control lean and add to handling balance while leaving the straightline spring rate low, keeping the ride soft and comfortable.
a swaybar controls body roll/lean by adding spring rate under roll (cornering) conditions. everything else constant, adding a sway bar to the rear would increase rear stiffness proportional to the front, allowing the car easier rotation.
but everything has proportions. your friends's gsr has a big (24mm) front sway bar and only a little 14mm rear bar, making the car more prone to understeer.
hth
</TD></TR></TABLE>24mm is the stock swaybar for the Gsr? i dont think so
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 01:09 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98itRspec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">24mm is the stock swaybar for the Gsr? i dont think so </TD></TR></TABLE> Factory sway bar sizing: (from here)

Front:
1992-1995 Civic Si: 21mm
1992-1995 Civic EX: 21mm
1994-1997 del Sol DOHC: 24mm
1996-2000 Civic EX: 22mm
1996-2000 Civic HX: 22mm
1999-2000 Civic Si: 26mm
1997-2000 Civic Type R: 26mm
1994-2001 Integra LS: 22mm
1994-2001 Integra GSR: 24mm
1996-2001 Integra Type R: 24mm

Rear:
1992-1995 Civic EX: 13mm
1994-1997 del Sol DOHC: 15mm
1999-2000 Civic Si: 13mm
1997-2000 Civic Type R: 22mm
1994-1999 Integra LS: 13mm
2000-2001 Integra LS: 14mm
1994-2001 Integra GSR: 14mm
1996-2001 Integra Type R: 23mm (JDM) 22mm (USDM)
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Old Apr 11, 2007 | 08:07 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98itRspec &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">24mm is the stock swaybar for the Gsr? i dont think so</TD></TR></TABLE>

FRONT SWAY.. not REAR
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 05:27 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Voyage34 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">in simple form (not simplest, im sure someone else can word it better), swaybars control lean and add to handling balance while leaving the straightline spring rate low, keeping the ride soft and comfortable.
a swaybar controls body roll/lean by adding spring rate under roll (cornering) conditions. everything else constant, adding a sway bar to the rear would increase rear stiffness proportional to the front, allowing the car easier rotation.
but everything has proportions. your friends's gsr has a big (24mm) front sway bar and only a little 14mm rear bar, making the car more prone to understeer.
hth</TD></TR></TABLE>

Thanks,

Actually its my gsr, and i was just curious because i removed the rear swaybar, just curious how it would effect my handling, i added some PIC coils, skunk2 rear LCA's (new ones) and a ASR rear subframe brace along with PIC front adj uppers. The car is just a DD, wont see the track.
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Old Apr 12, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by HamiltonRex &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i was just curious because i removed the rear swaybar, just curious how it would effect my handling</TD></TR></TABLE>

to free mods and experimentation. How'd it feel with and without?
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Old Apr 19, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by PIC Performance &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> to free mods and experimentation. How'd it feel with and without? </TD></TR></TABLE>

car handles fine, its not a track car. I noticed a huge difference adding the front uppers, rear lowers, rear subframe brace, and the coils, tightened things up a ton!
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