H2B in a prelude???
i've said it once, and ill say it again. Unless someone does it before me, i will get this to work in the future.
worth it? Dont really care.
worth it? Dont really care.
Well i know it sounds pointless but i was just reading one of the other threads and a guy brought it to everyones attention that the sport is not gonna keep progressing unless we keep pushing the envelope!!! Id really like to see people coming out with some 12sec n/a preludes and what not and i know that the stock h22 tranny without mods will make it very difficult to run 13 or maybe 12 sec ets n/a.....
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Hulk3000x »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well i know it sounds pointless but i was just reading one of the other threads and a guy brought it to everyones attention that the sport is not gonna keep progressing unless we keep pushing the envelope!!! Id really like to see people coming out with some 12sec n/a preludes and what not and i know that the stock h22 tranny without mods will make it very difficult to run 13 or maybe 12 sec ets n/a.....</TD></TR></TABLE>
do the research and get to work.
do the research and get to work.
A company like Driveshaft Shop (DSS) prolly has all the measurements to figure out axle lengths with that combo if you could get them to crunch the numbers for ya.
You would just need to fab a few mounts and figure out the shifter linkage.
You would just need to fab a few mounts and figure out the shifter linkage.
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alterdcreations »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Maybe it might be worth it in a first gen if they were not cable shifted trannys</TD></TR></TABLE>
Seems like the BIG reasons for the H2B aren't things we have issues with. There are some A/M gear options for us out there now and we don't have the placement and axle issues.
High RPMs would be liked by the B tranny more but H's don't really go beyond 8500 for the most part!
If an H finds its way into my EG, it will be H2B! Why is it H2B? Isn't it more like B2H? hahaha
Seems like the BIG reasons for the H2B aren't things we have issues with. There are some A/M gear options for us out there now and we don't have the placement and axle issues.
High RPMs would be liked by the B tranny more but H's don't really go beyond 8500 for the most part!
If an H finds its way into my EG, it will be H2B! Why is it H2B? Isn't it more like B2H? hahaha
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vinuneuro »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What's the advantage with the B-series over using a more aggressive final drive....closer ratios?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I don't get it....there are 4.6, 4.7, 5.0 FD's for the H trans out there.
I don't get it....there are 4.6, 4.7, 5.0 FD's for the H trans out there.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by vinuneuro »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What's the advantage with the B-series over using a more aggressive final drive....closer ratios?</TD></TR></TABLE>
in a prelude no much....im sure axle angles would get worse and the shift linkeage would have to be modified so it would probably end up feeling stupid..
in a prelude no much....im sure axle angles would get worse and the shift linkeage would have to be modified so it would probably end up feeling stupid..
cable shifted vs. shaft shifted would be a big advantage for one.
also dog cut gears or whatever that were made to be powershifted are only available for the b trans.
also dog cut gears or whatever that were made to be powershifted are only available for the b trans.
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 93PreludeVTEC »</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Theres a company out there selling an H2B kit but its only for civics
... why cant they make things for the car the engine was meant for damn?</TD></TR></TABLE>
becuase they are more succesful making it for eg/dc/ef
... why cant they make things for the car the engine was meant for damn?</TD></TR></TABLE>becuase they are more succesful making it for eg/dc/ef
I dont think you guyrs understand. One of the main purposes for the h2b in an integra/civic was it kept so many of the stock parts. The only thing you needed was the kit and the h22 motor itself.
it keeps stock axles, tranny, basically clutch/flywheel, shift linkage. The advantage of having the h2b in those cars and keeping stock parts means you don't need to cut a hole in the floor and get shift linkage to work. You dont need to cut off or modify the stock mount.
It almost makes the h swap in a integra a one day job.
I don't see the since of putting the b series tranny in the prelude.
The hardest part is going to be getting shaft shift linkage to work in the prelude. also you are going to need mounts and axles which arn't that big of a deal. But with the h2b plate you are going to have problems with space. it adds 1/2 inch, 3/4 or an inch. Which means you might have problems with the crank pully and it being close to the rail.
Everything has to be thought out before it is done. Prove to me its worth it. What are the true advantages. Because you lose alot of the advantages that the h2b was invented for.
it keeps stock axles, tranny, basically clutch/flywheel, shift linkage. The advantage of having the h2b in those cars and keeping stock parts means you don't need to cut a hole in the floor and get shift linkage to work. You dont need to cut off or modify the stock mount.
It almost makes the h swap in a integra a one day job.
I don't see the since of putting the b series tranny in the prelude.
The hardest part is going to be getting shaft shift linkage to work in the prelude. also you are going to need mounts and axles which arn't that big of a deal. But with the h2b plate you are going to have problems with space. it adds 1/2 inch, 3/4 or an inch. Which means you might have problems with the crank pully and it being close to the rail.
Everything has to be thought out before it is done. Prove to me its worth it. What are the true advantages. Because you lose alot of the advantages that the h2b was invented for.
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For some reason we have reliability fairies in our H22's that come from the factory, and if you crack it apart and take the guts out, the fairy escapes </TD></TR></TABLE>
This is so true its sick! Another reason I like the idea of 100% OEM Honda bottom ends! Its just a shame Honda never made an 89mm piston!!
Quote, originally posted by JG Luder »
For some reason we have reliability fairies in our H22's that come from the factory, and if you crack it apart and take the guts out, the fairy escapes </TD></TR></TABLE>
This is so true its sick! Another reason I like the idea of 100% OEM Honda bottom ends! Its just a shame Honda never made an 89mm piston!!
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