what are the gains of this? is it really worth it to do cuz one of my boys is begging me to let him do it to my car?

 

Care to enlighten us on how you plan to 'advance' vtec?

Don't do **** to your car because someone else wants you to, that's stupid. Unless he's your sponsor, tell him to mod his own car.

 

I think it would probably be cheaper in the long run, to buy, or have your boy buy, and old Civic for $1000 and let him tear loose on the thing..... I wouldn't let him tear into your daily driver, if that's what were talking here. There is way to much that could go wrong or cost $$$ depending on what Make & Model Car your driving...It's not as easy as just pushing a button, specially on an OBD2 (96 Up) car. and just to play with VTEC advance....Just my opinion but I don't think it's worth it!

 

whats vtec advance?

 

I'm guessing you mean lower the point where VTEC engages or something?

Doesn't make a lot of sense in a DD

 

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NOTE:* VTEC Advance = Advance/Retard the VTEC Engagement/Disengagement point. I think that is what he is asking about. If this was a legit question


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lax1089 if this wasn't a legit question and just some smart remark towards the OP's question.....my question to you lax is......
What's vtec? It's VTEC and always will be VTEC. It's an acronym and acronyms are all caps VTEC! If ya can't get that strait try typing Variable valve Timing and Electronic lift Control from now on.


Modified by GhostAccord at 3:51 PM 4/9/2007

 

You could look into an Apexi V-afcII. But if you plan on changing the V-tec engagement points make sure you have a sufficient gas supply. That means fuel rail, pressure regulator, bigger injectors, and a fuel pump. Otherwise it's pointless to "advance" vtec. You wouldn't see any HP increases


Modified by accordcd_7 at 12:24 PM 4/10/2007

 

what the expletive are you talking about. how would that not be a legit question? i dont see the phrase VTEC advance floating around the forum and i was curious on what it was. maybe i am the only one who doesn't know. my apologies judge judy.

 

If its a SOHC vtec there is nothing to gain. VTEC engages at like 2500-3200 now depending on throttle position what you going to do, move it down to like 1200 so you're in VTEC MAD FAST YO!

No but seriously if its on a h22 or something thats DOHC it may make sense but not on a SOHC unless you want terrible gas mileage and almost no gain. Oh and unless your "boy" is a real tuner, i would not let him mess up everything.

Either ways good luck..

 

Bahaha, how are people still doing this crap?...I guess another 15 yr old gets his permit every day. How old is your 'boy' and why don't you just tell him you're his father and you say no.

 

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My apologies, like I said in my post I kinda thought that you were just trying to be a smart A@s..... I'm new to this site and I see alot of flamming of noobs that is uncalled for so I just figured that your question was a sort of flame....Sorry I jumped on ya.....just quit smoking

Back to the topic on hand.......

 

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HAHA, after all that sheit GhostAccord wrote up on VTEC..

Anyway, I remember when guys would get the Fields/Boxer VTEC controller to lower the point in which VTEC engages...I never really understood that concept back then, and I still don't.

 

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What's vtec? It's VTEC and always will be VTEC. It's an acronym and acronyms are all caps VTEC! If ya can't get that strait try typing Variable valve Timing and Electronic lift Control from now on. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I wouldn't worry about if people type it in caps or not, even though you are correct It's just not worth arguing over.

Also, as general note, not to anyone specific... If someone spells it with an "h" or "H" at then end, don't go on and on about it being a phone and such, just tell them the correct spelling and move on, again it's not worth arguing over.

ok, now back on topic

 

Vtec has a variable engagement point on most sohc engines. Lowering the vtec engagement point will actually hurt the performance of your car. I think the engineer's at Honda might have just a CLUE as to what they're doing. Your "buddy" is an asshat.

 

it's vtec 2.0.
Kinda like USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.
Much faster.

 

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Kinda like USB 1.0 and USB 2.0.
Much faster. </TD></TR></TABLE>

 

sorry i havent got back to this thread....it is changing the engaging point of the vtec...instead of 4rpms it kicks in at about 3.5 all it is if ******* wit the distributor...really wasnt a big deal at all and i feel silly for even making a thread about it

 

thank you for all the help tho

 

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That either advances or retards the timing, not VTEC.

 

So if i expletive "wit" my distributer, it changes my vtec crossover? Sweet.


I'm buying a vtec controller to advance my timing.

 

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Nice. Almost retarded enough for a sig.

Changing VTEC's engagement point doesn't mean you get that mad VTEC powa earlier, it means you have more air coming in before it's even needed.

 

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Same thing my friend told me. At one point I wanted to get a vtec controller and he asked why the hell I'd want one. He then said that vtec kicks in at the right moment, so it's a seamless transition instead of having it kick in hard.

 

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Yes, changing the VTEC engagement point requires changes to the fuel mapping, but you definitely would <U>NOT</U> need a fuel rail, pressure regulator, bigger injectors, or a fuel pump.

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As TouringAccord already stated, the only thing you did by adjusting your distributor was advance or retard your ignition timing, which could be extremly damaging to your engine since you and your buddy have no clue what you just did. Making changes to the VTEC engagment points requires aftermarket tuning electronics, such as a piggyback fuel controller or standalone EMS.

I HIGHLY suggest that:

1) You take your car to a shop and have them readjust your ignition timing, since your buddy just screwed it up. And,

2) You smack your buddy for trying to mess with your car when he has no clue what he is doing.

 

alright...thanks to those who are trying to help....middle finger to those who are gettin mad at me for not knowing about hondas...lol sorry we all arent born honda tech gods like you guys...anyways i misunderstood the whole thing...i was having a idling problem(when started and cold my idle jumped to 2-2.5 then after about a minute went to normal) and my boy adjusted the timing and fixed that problem lil nothing was done to my vtec...lol i gotta chill wit the maryjane...

i was told honda-tech was a great place to get good used parts and learn a lot about ur car and to this point everything i heard is tru...every question ive had has been answered and im learnin a lot...so to the asses out there chill out..dont get mad wen people done know every component in a honda..ur gunna kill the site for every 1

thanks agian to those who helped