I'm curious to know if i can build my b16 to run a 12 in my crx. I posted here because all-motor is where its at. Money isn't a concern, seeing that I'll be getting a swap if it's not possible. If I swap, ill probably get the B18C5.

Thanks is advance!!

 

get your self a K20R. with bolts ons ull be in 12 sec easily.

 

how much does that run? Also what car does that come in?

 

its 220 hp and 160 ft/tq.

complete swap will cost you around 10k.
there are 4 to 5 of the swaps if u could just search.

Dont forget ull reach ur goal with stock motor,

 

Ditch the idea of the Hype R engine, search "poor mans Type R"..You'll see you can build a hype R for half the cost of a new one, and why spend that kind of scrilla if you might end up replacing intake manifold/cams/valvetrain/pistons anyways?

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gibsanez &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ditch the idea of the Hype R engine, search "poor mans Type R"..You'll see you can build a hype R for half the cost of a new one, and why spend that kind of scrilla if you might end up replacing intake manifold/cams/valvetrain/pistons anyways?</TD></TR></TABLE>

 

its up to you to decide.

Stock = reliability

 

75+ shot and slicks...........depending on which route you go, you can buy yourself several b16's for the cost of building your 12sec all motor car.

 

K swap dosen't cost 10k if you are patient and do a lil research. With some bolt ons and a decent tune on K-pro you will have a low mileage reliable swap that will run 12's
http://www.k20a.org/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=20
Welcome to your new home...

 

approx 10k..

 

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yep

two of my buddy's had that same set-up

CRX + stock b16a + 75shot + slicks = 12.8s to 12.2 all day long

 

A b16a will hit 12's all day long depending on whats done to it. First of all ditch the crank for an ls one so you can bring your stroke up to 89 mm. That will help a bunch. Then its up to you whether you want a big bore or stick with an 81 mm or 81.50 build. Thats where it gets pricey. If you plan on sticking to a non sleeved block go with p30 pistons or ctrs. Port your head get some pro 1's and get it tuned and call it a day. That should easily be enough on slicks with a bit of suspension to get you in the 12's.

 

b16, 75 shot, slicks= 12's

 

K baby.

 

Yes it is possible. People have hit high 13s on street tires with Stock strong B16s and gutted CRX's, i'd imagine hitting close to 200whp can def. get you in the 12s on slicks.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pjhatchin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A b16a will hit 12's all day long depending on whats done to it. First of all ditch the crank for an ls one so you can bring your stroke up to 89 mm. That will help a bunch. Then its up to you whether you want a big bore or stick with an 81 mm or 81.50 build. Thats where it gets pricey. If you plan on sticking to a non sleeved block go with p30 pistons or ctrs. Port your head get some pro 1's and get it tuned and call it a day. That should easily be enough on slicks with a bit of suspension to get you in the 12's. </TD></TR></TABLE>

You forgot to mention either custom rods or add a block plate considering the B18A block is over 8.5 mm taller than the B16 block. Good advice

 

Def do the b16 with slicks and some spray. Alot cheaper. Think about it, K20R= 10k to run 12s. Or ~3.5k all together for suspension, b16, and spray to run 12s

 

a buddy of mine ran in pomona last year or the year b4...11.99 in a b16 powered crx

he has gsr cams, skunk2 pro manifold and cam gears, fiberglass front end, fuel cell, lexan hatch side windows, and doors,

 

I'm sure this is possible, but I don't know if it suits the OP's ideas. I don't think he is going for a straight out race car

 

just look at FULL-RACE's crx that was in superstreet or something and it had a gutted crx with a h22 on 75 shot with slicks run low 12's all day but then again that was a h22

 

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You forgot to mention either custom rods or add a block plate considering the B18A block is over 8.5 mm taller than the B16 block. Good advice </TD></TR></TABLE>

Well for something that mild he doesnt really need aftermarket rods ls rods shot peened can take just about any abuse u can throw at them on all motor. Also assuming he runs some arp rod bolts. I could of sworn that all b series blocks have the same deck height but I could be wrong. He doesnt need a plate to have the head fit on the b18a block just some golden eagle ls vtec kit goodness is really all he needs. But yea a very simple setup. Cant go wrong with this. As far as nos im against it and would rather have a solid na car that runs 12's on its own. Plus if he really wanted to keep it simple he can run a b16 block just get the ls parts throw them in and run with it.

 

i dont think all b series have the same deck height.

 

my friend had a 4-door civic with a JDM B16 w/75 shot and hit 12.8-12.9 with drag radials

 

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Well for something that mild he doesnt really need aftermarket rods ls rods shot peened can take just about any abuse u can throw at them on all motor. Also assuming he runs some arp rod bolts. I could of sworn that all b series blocks have the same deck height but I could be wrong. He doesnt need a plate to have the head fit on the b18a block just some golden eagle ls vtec kit goodness is really all he needs. But yea a very simple setup. Cant go wrong with this. As far as nos im against it and would rather have a solid na car that runs 12's on its own. Plus if he really wanted to keep it simple he can run a b16 block just get the ls parts throw them in and run with it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Are you serious!!! Do you have any idea what your talking about?


To be blunt... YOU CAN'T USE A B18A/B CRANK AND RODS IN A B16 WITHOUT A BLOCK PLATE. THE BLOCK IS 8.5MM SHORTER AND THE PISTON WILL HIT THE HEAD!!!


Please stop spreading misinformation. It only hurts the Honda community.

 

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Well for something that mild he doesnt really need aftermarket rods ls rods shot peened can take just about any abuse u can throw at them on all motor. Also assuming he runs some arp rod bolts. I could of sworn that all b series blocks have the same deck height but I could be wrong. He doesnt need a plate to have the head fit on the b18a block just some golden eagle ls vtec kit goodness is really all he needs. But yea a very simple setup. Cant go wrong with this. As far as nos im against it and would rather have a solid na car that runs 12's on its own. Plus if he really wanted to keep it simple he can run a b16 block just get the ls parts throw them in and run with it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The reason he needs aftermarket rods or a blockplate is exactly what the guy above me said, the B16 is 8.5mm shorter than the B18A, so even if you used B16 rods, your piston to deck height is -.210, and then you would have a R/S ratio worse than a stock B18A.

You basically told him to build something that would not even start because the pistons would hit the head.


But hey, throw a set of P30's in there, and you have a static compression ratio of 40:1 (no it will not run on 91 )