So next friday MCIR opens and i am planning on going. I have searched but i havent found anything of use to me. All i am wondering is what times have you run and what mods you have done? I have a 96 DB8 with an intake and cat-back. what should i run? I am hoping for at least a 14.9, is that do-able?

 

No one?

 

14.9 is overly optimistic

 

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No its not. My friend ran a 14.6 with I/H/E on his DB8 on azenis..es? azenis'? azenie? multipile azenises? dammit!! how do you say azenis in plural?!

Anyway, he also ran 14.2-14.3 I/H/E cams. He could have gone faster. But he was on Azenis...es...again...and they werent hooking up for whatever reason.

You gotta remember, this is the midwessss. U.S. 41 (wisconsin, i think) is 600feet above sea level. Plus its only around 50-60 degrees around here as a average high this time of year. Right now its like 20something.

 

Ohh well, im going to try for a 14.9. im a pretty decent driver so i think its do-able. ill just loose as much random **** inside to save weight lol

 

LOL yeah right run a 14.. something with not many mods .. thats funny .. i had plenty done got great shift great tracktion... I ran A 15.2 to 15.4 few times sycrows grinded.. But o way it is going to run a 14.9 with that few things done that doesnt add much horse. and stock they are not running low 15's or 14's at that even a good tune dont thing it would.. maybe a gsr stripped with a few mods...and 14.6 i have seen some cars running like 200-250 that ran that lol with those lil mod u are not running a 14.6. and reading more and more on here there are some people with turboed gsr ruining high 13's low 14's so if anything id look for 15 and go for that. Stock they will run like 15.5 . give or take on the driver.

 

There is a few more things that determine ur time at the track then just mods.

Track conditions

Tires

Driver

Etc etc.

 

O yes i agree to that but just driver and track are not going to make u drop .6 second that make a differecs in the 1/4 mile dunno i just dont see it happening

 

LOL 200-250 hp to run 14s?!!!!!! WTF?!! Ok....STOCK ITRs run 14s. Thats 195hp....about 168 or so at the wheels. My S13 with a redtop (i know its not a honda but still) probably only made 230-250 to the wheels and it was a 12 second car. THAT WAS ON STOCK BOOST with bolt ons street tires and a full intererior...including spare. When that car had a KA24 single cam, with a cone filter, LSD and exhaust, i ran 15.3. That was a 140hp to the crank motor stock. So with my mods to the wheels you figure what? 125hp?? My B16 EK ran FLAT 14s with I/H/E and intake manifold. STOCK S2000s have run 13s consistently with 200hp to the wheels 240 to the crank (i own one). I mean I hate bench racing, but if you need 200-250 hp in an integra to run 14s, you should probably go back to driver's ed. I have seen with my own eyes a DB8 with I/H/E run deep 14s. I definitely know my stock (ok not stock, it has an ebay header since my manifold cracked) 99 GSR can run 15.1 or better. I would put money on that, and my car has 140k on it.

P.S. I dont mean to come off like a dick, but im not talking out of my ***. I've been around cars for years and years. I guess I just learned how to drive them in that amount of time.


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Modified by B serious at 2:25 AM 4/8/2007

 

No no not being a dick just stating facks.. Like every one knows its alot on the driver to . thats why i said like 200 to run the 14's which is the ITR. i wasnt saying to the wheels or anything. Dunno basaclly all i should of said i wouldnt look forward to those numbers with the lil mods.

 

hmm i think he can hit 14.9 with some good tires and some weight saving.

 

I ran a 14.68 @ 93 mph in my 1994 DB8. At the time that run was made, it was about 55-60 degrees outside, and at Sac. Raceway. Sacramento Raceway is about 100ft elevation, and always seems to have a decent tailwind to help get the times down. When I made that run I had I/H/E clutch and flywheel. The tires were the crap-tastic Kumho 712 at 28 psi, and the suspension was my standard auto-x setup with no changes to alignment or ride height. If you have quality parts, a strong motor, and favorable track conditions I don't see why you can't hit high 14s... the only limiting factor will be you, so don't let that be a factor.

 

my brother ran a 14.6 is his gsr coupe with i/h/e and drag radials. stock tires he was barely breaking 14's. also at sac raceway.

 

Well im hoping for low 15 high 14's. I wont cry if i dont do that well, im just ******* aroundtill i can get my del sol =D

 

i think its doable if you get your 60' times down....regardless, it will be fun

 

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Def fun, a few of my friends are going with me so im excited.

 

My pos da ls ran 15.4 with free mods and a catback. I don't see why you couldn't come close especially with having more power than my teg does.

 

Where the hell did you run? and whats all done? I thinks thats a little bit of exaggerating there...

 

i dont think that he is exagerrating when i had my stock ls motor in my integra with i/h/e with 140k miles on it i ran a 15.1 was my best so i believe that he ran a 15.4

 

Hmmmm, thats sweet tho, this is giving me alot of hope for a 14.9 lol

Thanks guys!

 

Must be nice to live at sea level with 91+ octane.

Clocking in here at 3600 feet above with 90 being the best. Have to go way out of my way to get 91 octane.

Best B16 eg hatch run I got was 15.5 with nitto dot drags on 91 with a couple bottle octane booster. 60's were 2.2 2.3
The best I have seen a half *** modded s2k run here is a 14.7 that was with a pretty decent driver (girl at that) the guy only ran a low 15's with it.
Another S2K driven by an idiot could only hit a 15.3-15.7 hahahahaha. can't wait to race him with the engine building now.

I say shoot for a low 15 that way if you hit 14's you'll be excited but if you don't break under 15.5 you won't kill yourself.

Practice launching, shifting staging, and getting 60's down. The rest will work itself out.
You may be a good driver on the streets but the track is intimidating sometimes.

 

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Clocking in here at 3600 feet above with 90 being the best. Have to go way out of my way to get 91 octane.

Best B16 eg hatch run I got was 15.5 with nitto dot drags on 91 with a couple bottle octane booster. 60's were 2.2 2.3
The best I have seen a half *** modded s2k run here is a 14.7 that was with a pretty decent driver (girl at that) the guy only ran a low 15's with it.
Another S2K driven by an idiot could only hit a 15.3-15.7 hahahahaha. can't wait to race him with the engine building now.

I say shoot for a low 15 that way if you hit 14's you'll be excited but if you don't break under 15.5 you won't kill yourself.

Practice launching, shifting staging, and getting 60's down. The rest will work itself out.
You may be a good driver on the streets but the track is intimidating sometimes.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Yeah i have been to the tracj before so i know what to expect. I run 93 octne cuz i cant find anywhere with 91 around here. i got my launch down pretty well, its at about 4200rpm has been my best so far. who knows, weather is supposed to be decent so ill keep you all posted.

 

Sorry bkmc24, you will not run under 15 at MCIR. Have you been to this track before!!!! I would have to say it is by far the worst track I have ever raced at, period. I have raced at Norwalk, Edgewater, Trails and MCIR, all of these are in Ohio. As a side note the track will be very, very green you will have some difficulty launching consistently let alone getting a good 60'.
With your mods and a really good 60' (2.2 or better) you might have a chance at Norwalk.
Norwalk is about 1/4 second faster than Trails, and Trails in about 1/4 to 1/2 faster that MCIR, at least for my car.
Just an idea with an I/H/E in my GSR and tires at 25psi I ran a 15.02 at Norwalk.
At Trails I consistently hit 2.2 60' on street tires with a stock suspension just to give you some idea of what you should be shooting for.

 

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I can post my slip if you want.

 

You probably wanna launch higher at the track as the track warms up. I launched my B16 I/H/E intake manifold Ek hatchbox on the street around 5500-6000 rpms. I'd rather spin a little than bog. It would put me right in the power band. B16s lack torque, so it was perfect. I dont know what i'd launch my GSR at. I guess i'd have to figure it out. I just DD it lol. I'm scared to go to the track with my S2K. I dont wanna look like a biotch and run 14s, but I dont wanna launch at 8K and break my diff, either. Meh..maybe i'll try it once. Hopefully there wont be an explosion of expensive *** torsen differential parts.