Right now im on some boot leg Springs in the front and back.I just got my paycheck and looking for some new Suspension modifications.Basically I want to get something that when someone sits inside my caar (like a passenger) i dont want my /front end to DROP ALOT more down.Im tucking tires all around when people sit on my passenger side my car drops down like any normal stock suspension. i guess. so i want to be get something that will keep my front end at the same height even with a extra passenger besides the driver. When I buy new springs do I need to look at the rate? Or is it that I need new shocks ???Im not very smart in suspension works so i dont know what part of the suspension is that I need to upgrade to get my Front end mantain ride height or lose very little ride height when a extra LARGER passenger sits i.....But if i make the front the way I want it does this mean ...BUMPY ride?

 

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If you want to be really low, then you should probably look into getting Ground-Control height adjustable sleeves (hands down best quality setup). The springs that are including (Eibach Race Springs) are substantially stiffer than regular lowering springs, and much more performance oriented. Plus the lifetime warranty doesn't hurt. They will ride okay on stock shocks for some time (I pulled of 5 years), but you won't get the most out of your suspension until you get some good performance shocks.

Great performance adjustable shocks include Koni "Sport" shocks, and Tokico Illuminas. The Koni Sports, however, require a special type of Ground control sleeves to work together. This means if your planing to upgrade your suspension in stages, Koni shocks probably aren't the best option for you. Upgrading to Illuminas in the future will probably be a more cost effective option. If cost is a factor, you could try Skunk-2's newest shortened sport shocks. They will help keep you from bottoming out, and should work well with GC (ground control) springs...

 

Ok so basically the upgrade I need for a stiffer ride is the springs.Then later on upgrade on shocks as well.Ok so your recommendation are the Eibach Lowering Springs? These will mantain ride height even with a extra passenger.?

 

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You could tough it out on the stock suspension so that you can save your money and replace everything in one shot... I for one have been through more setups than I can count on one hand (most of them crappy combinations) and I've decided to the the plunge on a gc/koni setup even though I was ready to invest in F2 type 2 coilovers... Only reason being is coz of the lifetime warranty.

Springs are designed to compress with weight. The more weight you load on it, the more it's going to compress... The stiffer the spring, the more weight it takes to compress it. So the more passengers in your car, the more it is going to affect your ride height. How little or how much is dependant on your spring rates...

 

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No, not Eibach lowering springs (although those are nice). I'm talking about Ground Control height adjustable suspension kit. They use Eibach ERS (racing) springs, and are substantially stiffer than any regular lowering springs....

Eibach's regular lowering springs use progressive rates that gives the car a soft ride quality that is similar to stock. They are mainly for people that want a lowered ride height with soft ride quality. It doesn't sound like this is what your looking for...

I have to agree with Chim Chim though. Doing it at once will give better results, and you won't find anything better under $1500 than the Koni sport shock & Ground Control coil-over combo. Kinda pricey on initial investment though...

 

Ok so I have to look at spring Rates when buying Branded Springs? Thanks for your input on the setups 94EG!.. and Chim Chim. I've learned from both of you what I need to look for to get my ride stiffer which is get a spring with a high spring rate so the more weight (passengers) the spring will compress just a little compared to the LOT a stock spring does.

 

You don't want to go too stiff... If you can, pick up the MAY 07 issue of Sport Compact Car... Look in the "dear dave" section and there is a great crash course on how the civic's suspension works. It's based on the 96-00 civic, but the 92-95 is very similar and follows most of the same rules as far as the math is concerned... After reading that little section, I was able to make a more informed choice of spring rates when I ordered my setup.