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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:10 PM
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Just by looking over some meet pics, i runs across the one below. I don't know who's car this is but take notice on the sunroof. I know that 96-up civic sunroofs didn't slide out like that but how did they do it? Has anyone ever done this or know how to do this cause I think it's a really hot personally! I've also seen a car in honda tuning one time with a sliding sunroof!

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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Shaguar47 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just by looking over some meet pics, i runs across the one below. I don't know who's car this is but take notice on the sunroof. I know that 96-up civic sunroofs didn't slide out like that but how did they do it? Has anyone ever done this or know how to do this cause I think it's a really hot personally! I've also seen a car in honda tuning one time with a sliding sunroof!

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i thought they did slide out like that? i am sure though the 92-95 civics did. maybe the 92-95 civic and the 96-00 civics sunroof are swapabble.

maybe his civic never had a sunroof and installed the 92-95 civic.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:13 PM
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It looks like an aftermarket unit.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:14 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Padawan &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It looks like an aftermarket unit. </TD></TR></TABLE>
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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It's either aftermarket one or an stock unit from another car that has a sunroof that operates like that.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:15 PM
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I don't think it's an aftermarket cause if you look closely, it's the same size as a stock and the black lines on the side of the glass are there.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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they couldve taken it from a GSR or something and put it in but im pretty sure eks dide slide back i remember a freind having a coupe that had one that did and he didnt do anything to it but put gay apc **** on it
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:18 PM
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i for one cannot see the rubber gasket that goes around the edge of the glass. but i could be wrong, hard to tell
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:20 PM
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the only possible way it could function like that would be aftermarket.

BTW, four doors dont come with sunroofs... 99% sure.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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yeah they do. The ex models did.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:23 PM
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me 2000 ex tilts up a little bit and slides into the roof...so i dont think thats stock
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:26 PM
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My 1998 EX sun roof does not slide back on the outside like that.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:43 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allricedout- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the only possible way it could function like that would be aftermarket.

BTW, four doors dont come with sunroofs... 99% sure.</TD></TR></TABLE>
Both USDM coupes and sedans come with factory moonroofs. The 6th gen US models with factory moonroofs are the EX coupe, the Si coupe and the EX sedan.

An example of a stock sedan with moonroof:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItem

The car pictured above has an aftermarket moonroof. If you look carefully you can see the rubber seal going around the hole in the roof. Stock moonroofs have the seal on the glass and the roof folds in around the moonroof opening. Aftermarket moonroofs require you to cut a hole into the roof skin though, which means you can't fold the metal in (at least not very easily without paint damage). Since the seal has to go all the way around, the glass has to go above the car.

Aftermarket moonroofs seem more prone to water leaks than stock moonroofs.

Closer pic:
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:47 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by allricedout- &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the only possible way it could function like that would be aftermarket.

BTW, four doors dont come with sunroofs... 0% sure.</TD></TR></TABLE>

fixed....
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:51 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by NineTwoSi &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's either aftermarket one or an stock unit from another car that has a sunroof that operates like that. </TD></TR></TABLE>

Dont tegs have a sunroof like that? arent they swappable?
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Cain Marko &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Dont tegs have a sunroof like that? arent they swappable?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm not sure, but I believe the Integra moonroof is wider than the Civic moonroof.

If anyone wants to measure their stock Integra moonroof, I'll go measure my stock Civic moonroof.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 03:00 PM
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my cousins 98 DX hatch had s custom sunroof put in..it was the kind where you push up and not power
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 03:17 PM
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Here is a comparision of the sliding roof components for the 6G Civic and the 3G Integra.

Civic


Integra
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 05:13 PM
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maple grove meet
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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just bust out some F&F **** on your moon roof and just push and slide it open manually
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 08:02 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 95ProjectEJ1 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">just bust out some F&F **** on your moon roof and just push and slide it open manually </TD></TR></TABLE>
Are you referencing when he unlatched the targa top on the Supra and let it fly off behind him?
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 08:55 PM
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Unless they are on a luxo ride, I think moonroofs are about as useless as a one-legged cat trying to bury a turd on a frozen pond. Do you know what cutting a hole in your roof does to the structural integrity (rigidity) of your car?
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 09:17 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maynards_ek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless they are on a luxo ride, I think moonroofs are about as useless as a one-legged cat trying to bury a turd on a frozen pond. Do you know what cutting a hole in your roof does to the structural integrity (rigidity) of your car?</TD></TR></TABLE>
I'm guessing you don't. I can only figure that you probably think that a hole cut into the roof makes the car more likley to flex... That's a fairly easy assumption to make. But you have to remember it's not as simple as a hole just being cut in the car.

http://www.tundrasolutions.com...nroof/
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by sunroofanswer_man &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">hello members,maybe i can help shed a little light on the subject of a sunroof on this vehicle,i have been in the aftermarket industry for over 20 years and have installed powersunroofs in all shapes and sizes in that time, let me start by saying dealers know very little about the actual construction of a vehicle and what it takes to upfit a vehicle with an aftermarket product. the reason for this is simple, they leave the details to the experts like us. as they should. the concerns about ribs on the roof, structural integrity and rear speakers are genuine on this vehicle, let me try to help you understand this better, lets start with the structure issue, most vehicles have stamped steel cross bars under the headliner that aids in the roof stabilitly as well as rollover structure, when and if its nesecary to remove these pieces, that is where any concerns on this subject come into play, when you install an aftermarket internal sliding sunroof, this rigid type structure gets reintroduced into the vehicle as part of the sunroof substucture, in many cases adds more rigid structure back into the vehicle than it had before! the federal government will not let aftermarket companies manufacture this type of product unless it meets thier saftey standards.and installation companies have to comply with specific instllation practices. with that being said, when a company like ours decides to take on such a vehicle that has many questions reguarding such an installation, we have to do our homework before we cut a hole in the roof of a car.such as this particular vehicle,we install approximatly 100-125 power sunroofs each month so we know what we are doing!</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://forums.nasioc.com/forum....html
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by gumball &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The only "structural" roof member in those frame shots is between the B pillars. The small thin metal piece between the A and B pillars is just a roof "bow". Pretty common, and just keeps the sheetmetal perked up, esp. w/ thinner sheetmetal and rounded roof designs these days. It is not for rigidity, or I highly doubt it.

Replacing the roofbow w/ a sunroof, which will have a rigid frame mounted to the A and B cross members is probably actually stiffer than just
the roof bow, IMHO.</TD></TR></TABLE>

http://forum.sunroofs.org/foru...923ac
<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Forum_Admin &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A factory sunroof will not effect vehicle rigidity.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Btw, one of those cars that can't handle because they have moonroofs? Mini Coopers.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 09:18 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by maynards_ek &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Unless they are on a luxo ride, I think moonroofs are about as useless as a one-legged cat trying to bury a turd on a frozen pond. Do you know what cutting a hole in your roof does to the structural integrity (rigidity) of your car?</TD></TR></TABLE>

both true and false

Yes cutting a whole in your roof can damage structural integrity of the body of the car
and yes it can also serve as a saftey risk if the car is rolled and its not filmed glass

But

If it affected structural integrity that much it would most likely not be done
Where Moonroofs are placed on your car there is no support beam in place they are ridding your car of they are cuting through just sheet metal and headliner
if you want proof go rip out your headliner and look there will be an opening of just sheet metal covering you from the elements and that is where they place the moonroof.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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I think you guys read way too much into my comment. I meant that I see no benefit in putting a moonroof in a purpose-built performance vehicle. When a manufacturer designs a vehicle with a moonroof, they make the proper reinforcements. They dont just take the base model and cut a hole in the roof. And if you are building your car to perform then a moonroof is neither practical nor beneficial. Adding a moonroof DOES affect the rigidity of the vehicle. (albeit minimally) If you want a cruiser then by all means do it, but if you like to push your car to the limit, then a moonroof will just detract from handling performance.
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