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Old Mar 29, 2007 | 10:28 PM
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Hi all,
A friend of mine had set of skunk 2 cams, few days back i asked him if he want to sell them to me,

He said yes, Cams with valve train complete for 500$
I had in mind that they are skunk 2 stage 2, which he keep saying all the time,
but when i saw them they i was surprised that they where skunk 2 pro 2's in BOxes.

I dont have any other option in Cam except for them, My motor is currently bone stock,
with I/E and 2.25 piping. ef3 civic.

If i install them in my car will i find any gain with them,

I have a friend who runs a H22a in Ek, which is also stock, i raced him few times and i was 3 car behind from him, his 1/4 mile timing is 13.5.
I just want my car faster them him,

please advice me regarding the situation,

thanks,
Salman

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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 01:34 AM
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The PRO2 is too big for your motor. Just sell it
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:21 AM
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heheheh. yeah this will be my last option
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 02:49 AM
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Forget them. But I'd still advise buying them at that price.


Should'nt be hard to find someone to trade you a suitable set of cams.

Or you could alway's build a nice 2.0l bottom end and take advantage of them
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 03:05 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by LG_R32 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Forget them. But I'd still advise buying them at that price.


Should'nt be hard to find someone to trade you a suitable set of cams.

Or you could alway's build a nice 2.0l bottom end and take advantage of them</TD></TR></TABLE>

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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 03:24 AM
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just buy it and trade it with someone for stage 2 cams.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 06:10 AM
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Take all of the above advice.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 08:57 AM
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I am curious as to why they will not work, other than needing a good tunable ECU.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 11:07 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by DonF &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I am curious as to why they will not work, other than needing a good tunable ECU.</TD></TR></TABLE>

those cams make power high end and you will probably need pistons and bottom end for it work right.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 11:27 AM
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1200rpm b16
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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You mean B-16's cannot turn high RPM's ?
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 11:31 AM
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they love to spin
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 11:35 AM
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b-16's can rev to the moon...lol i say build a 2.0 and spin it to 9600! or even a strong 1.8!0000 give them to me for 500 and u could buy some skunk2 stage 2 cams or some pistons hondata and ctr cams!
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 12:19 PM
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that if i shave the head to increase the CR.
will it help.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 12:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by b16-bomber &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">b-16's can rev to the moon...lol i say build a 2.0 and spin it to 9600! or even a strong 1.8!0000 give them to me for 500 and u could buy some skunk2 stage 2 cams or some pistons hondata and ctr cams!</TD></TR></TABLE>
They are Urs, if u can provide me,
Skubk2 stg 2 cams
CTR pistons
hondata
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 12:28 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 1.8L_allmotormilitia &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

those cams make power high end and you will probably need pistons and bottom end for it work right.</TD></TR></TABLE>

even if i install JG 11.5 CR pistons. on stock rods.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 03:18 PM
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I have 01 ITR cams I will trade you. ITR cams and ITR dual valve springs/retainers.



Otherwise keep them and get RS 11.5:1 cams and flat-faced valves to raise comp. up a little.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 04:02 PM
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Or buy them and send them to me for my S2 Stg2 cams lol.


Cams are killer but you will need a bit more compression to get the most out of them although I imagine they will still make decent top end over stock with stock pistons.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 04:17 PM
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If you are trying to get your compression up for cheap you can trim about .040" from the head. This is only safe with a stock thickness head gasket. Be on the safe side and check clearances.
Cam gears are a must for S2P2's anyways.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 04:29 PM
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If you are determined to use the pro2's you could probably make more power by retaining the stock pistons, getting some decent headwork and playing with lobe centerlines until you find something that works. I wouldnt shave the head, or install higher CR pistons since that will lessen the amount you can play with the gears. I would check V2V, find out what your max safe adjustments are.

With a small motor with ultra aggressive cams, RPM + Cyl. Head flow + Cam timing &gt; static CR.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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I agree but I assume he is on a strict budget, why else would there be a need to retain the b16a bottom end.

A cut from the head and a decent valve job sould cost you around $200. Fast and easy, poke the throat and 3 angle from a high quality serdi or similar should get you where it will produce power on a budget.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 07:15 PM
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FYI When i said decent headwork, i just meant a 3 angle VJ with the bottom cut blended into the throat.
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 09:43 PM
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thanks for the comments.

If i install those and rev them to 9K, and try to tune them,
would I find any advantage?
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 09:48 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Natural Aspirations &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I agree but I assume he is on a strict budget, why else would there be a need to retain the b16a bottom end.
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YUp i can only aafford cams right now,
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Old Mar 30, 2007 | 09:59 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by salman &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">thanks for the comments.

If i install those and rev them to 9K, and try to tune them,
would I find any advantage?</TD></TR></TABLE>

If your other mods work well with 9k in mind, then yes.

Is that Ichigo in your avatar?
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