i am looking to get some new tires. i recently picked up some used rims and the tires on there are pretty much shot.

i am a yokohama man myself, but i am torn on which models to get. not to mention i was looking at some hankooks as well, but i never owned one so i don't know how the handle or deal with road noise. not to mention my civic has recently been promoted from daily driver to weekend warrior, so these tires will have to do well on the track too.

these 4 tires are the ones i am looking at. please tell me what you know about them, and please feel free to share other brands as well.

P.S. these are going on a 15" rim.

 

I wouldn't get any of these tires.

And I don't choose tires by brand. Every brand makes some good tires, and some not so good tires. Some provide good value, and others don't.

I also don't understand why anyone who would consider some of these tires would consider others. For example, the first question to ask yourself is, do you need to use these tires in snow and frigid cold, as well as in moderate to warm temperatures? If you do, you need an all-season tire such as the Avid H4S. If you don't - if you live in a warmer climate, or if you have other tires or another vehicle for winter use - then you can get better performance with a summer tire like the other three you listed.

Here is what I recommend:

If you are concerned ONLY with dry traction, and nothing else, then you're better off with the Falken Azenis RT-615 than any of these. Better dry traction than the Z212. Downsides include rapid treadwear and so-so performance in rain.

If you are looking for a tire that does well in the rain and lasts a long time, the Kumho SPT is hard to beat. Similar to the ES100 but better in every way.

Give us more information and we can provide a more specific recommendation. For example, answer questions like:

- Will these tires ever be used in snow?

- What kind of car (year and version of Civic) are these for? That determines the proper size tire you need, and we can recommend tires that are available in your size.

 

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Give us more information and we can provide a more specific recommendation. For example, answer questions like:

- Will these tires ever be used in snow?

- What kind of car (year and version of Civic) are these for? That determines the proper size tire you need, and we can recommend tires that are available in your size.
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well, i live in florida, so no snow here.

yes i would deal with some rain.

the tires will be going on a 93 civic hatch

 

I also live in fl, and I have the Ventus HRII on my vic, their good tires...pretty sticky...but dont like the price =X I haven't really tried any of those other tires but I would most likely go for Ecsta's if your on a budget...Final words...Ventus Good but not worth the price, their are definately better tires out there.

 

The tire size you need is 195/50-15.

If you don't mind paying a little more for higher-performance tires, I recommend the Goodyear F1 GS-D3. It's an outstanding tire, Goodyear's top of the line. Excellent dry traction, excellent wet traction, and lasts a long time (25-40K miles). In 195/50-15, they're $93/tire at the Tire Rack. This is the tire that won the comparison test of top-of-the-line tires in Car and Driver.

If you don't want to pay that much, a good choice in a lower price range is the Kumho SPT, $51/tire in 195/50-15, but it may be hard to find. If you can't find the SPT, then I would consider the Yokohama ES100 ($56/tire).

 

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If you don't mind paying a little more for higher-performance tires, I recommend the Goodyear F1 GS-D3. It's an outstanding tire, Goodyear's top of the line. Excellent dry traction, excellent wet traction, and lasts a long time (25-40K miles). In 195/50-15, they're $93/tire at the Tire Rack. This is the tire that won the comparison test of top-of-the-line tires in Car and Driver.

If you don't want to pay that much, a good choice in a lower price range is the Kumho SPT, $51/tire in 195/50-15, but it may be hard to find. If you can't find the SPT, then I would consider the Yokohama ES100 ($56/tire).
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yeah i wish the kumhos and yokohamas were only $50-55 a tire. looking at tire rack and discount tires and they are $70 and up. which still isn't bad.

well thanks guys for your quick replies.

 

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Huh?

Kumho SPT, 195/50-15, $51/tire at the Tire Rack
Yokohama ES100, 195/50-15, $56/tire at the Tire Rack

The ES100 is $61/tire at Discount Tire, which is an even better deal. Remember, Discount Tire offers free ground shipping, whereas you have to pay for shipping at the Tire Rack (typically $9-10/tire).

 

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Huh?

Kumho SPT, 195/50-15, $51/tire at the Tire Rack
Yokohama ES100, 195/50-15, $56/tire at the Tire Rack

The ES100 is $61/tire at Discount Tire, which is an even better deal. Remember, Discount Tire offers free ground shipping, whereas you have to pay for shipping at the Tire Rack (typically $9-10/tire).
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could you send me the link. i was just on there and i got a different price.

 

http://www.discounttire.com/dt...OKHVP

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...8&y=8

 

There are two reasons you're getting a higher price.

For the Tire Rack website, you entered a 2000 Integra GS-R, so it's giving you the size for that car - 195/55-15 - instead of the size you need for your '93 Civic Hatchback - 195/50-15.

For the Discount Tire website, they have two websites which can give you two different prices. If you click on their retail website - http://www.discounttire.com - then it gives you the higher prices you'll pay at your local Discount Tire store. If you click on their mail-order website - www.discounttiredirect.com - it will give you lower, mail-order prices (which include free shipping).

Whenever comparing prices, remember to look at the bottom line, including:

- tires
- shipping (only for mail-order places, except Discount Tire, which has free shipping)
- sales tax (only for retail outlets)
- mounting/balancing (sometimes included in prices for tires purchased at retail outlets, otherwise typically $10-20/tire)

 

Bingo! Agree with everything that is mentioned above! You really can't get better advice from anybody on Honda-Tech when it comes to tires. Nsxtasy really know his stuff and backs everything he says to a T. I like to think that I know my stuff when it comes to tires because I have tried different tires and did alot of reading but Nsxtasy is always 3 steps ahead!

 

thanks nsxtasy for the replies and the advice!

 

i have the es100's in 205/50/15's and they run great. Noise is there but my honda squeaks here and there so its not too bad. In the dry they hold up pretty well and i know i can push them to the limit. In the wet they are pretty stable, going 80mph in mild rain they still hold up. Tread wear hasn't been a problem at all, im a college student with a gf (who lives 30miles away) so i take short trips constantly. I've had the es100's for about a good 20k and two tires have a good 85-90% left and the other two have about 75-80% left. i have camber kits all around and had a great shop do my alignment so i've had no camber wear what so ever...(i'm tucked up front and almost tucked in the rear) i'd recommend es100's for anybody who wants to upgrade from the ziex's or something along those lines. Look into the kuhmo spts, after reading many reviews especially from nsxtasy, i'm considering getting spts for my next set of DD tires. From my reading they handle the same as the es100's but just slightly better in the rain.