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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 02:59 PM
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which tires for 98 oem gsr wheels---i live in north texas--little rain, hot and dry most of the time. i was thinking of the mich pe2 205/55 15
SORRY HIT AN EXTRA 5--I MEANT 205/50 15 FOR TH MICH PE2'S--MY COST ON THEM IS AROUND 426.00 TOTAL--i work for acura...i just wanted to hear some positive feedback on y'alls exp with tires for these wheels--thanks


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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 03:02 PM
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I had BFGoodrich 205-50-15's. They were nice in all weather. Even the snow.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 03:44 PM
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First of all, 205/55-15 is too big for an Integra. You need either 195/55-15 (stock size) or 205/50-15.

1. If you care only about traction on dry pavement, and you don't care how long the tires will last, and you don't plan to use these tires very often in rain, then get the Falken Azenis RT-615 in 205/50-15 ($73). Outstanding dry traction, so-so in rain, and don't last long at all (10-12K miles is typical). And a particularly good choice if you sometimes take your car to the track, autocross, or dragstrip.

2. If you care about dry traction, but you also care about wet traction and/or value (how long your tires last and/or how much you pay for them), then get the Kumho Ecsta SPT in either 195/55-15 ($63) or 205/50-15 ($65). Very good dry traction, excellent wet traction, and last pretty long (25-45K miles). Other decent tires in this category (not as good as the SPT, but similar, not that much worse) and available in both sizes include the Yokohama ES100 ($63/$71) and Dunlop Direzza DZ101 ($53.50/$44.50, both prices after rebate), all three of which are much less expensive than the similar-performing Michelin Pilot Exalto PE2 ($109/$115). Yes, maybe the PE2 is a hair better, but not enough to justify the huge price difference.

3. If you're looking for a bit better performance than the SPT/ES100/DZ101, but you don't want to replace tires quite as often as the Azenis or spend as much as the PE2, another choice is the Bridgestone Potenza RE010 in 195/55-15, the OEM tire for the Integra Type R, which is still available on closeout at the Tire Rack for $78. Excellent dry traction (better than the previous group, including the PE2), pretty good wet traction, great handling "feel", and should last 15-25K miles.

All of these are summer tires, and should not be used in snow. Those who need to drive in snow during the winter (I know you don't, but others might) would be better off using a separate set of wheels with winter tires or all-season tires in winter, and summer tires the rest of the year for maximum performance. If the same tires must be used in snow and all year round, then you need all-season tires, whose performance in moderate to warm temperatures isn't as good as summer tires, but are okay to use in snow. A good all-season tire at a good price is the Kumho Ecsta ASX.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 04:19 PM
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I've had the yokohama es100's and now I have the bfgoodrich g-forces.

I believe the g-forces are quite a bit better in wet conditions(atleast in my experience). In dry conditions its hard to say.

Also, the bfgoodrich's have lasted WAYY longer than my yokohamas. The lasted only about 13k miles. So far I've had my bfgoodrichs for about 10k or so, and they still have atleast 75% tread left.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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falken ziex ftw. cheap and durable!!
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 04:30 PM
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get the newest falken azenis or the yokahama es100. both are really really good all around
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 06:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by numbnuts22715 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I believe the g-forces are quite a bit better in wet conditions(atleast in my experience). In dry conditions its hard to say.</TD></TR></TABLE>

I think the ES100 is far, far better in wet conditions. And in dry.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by numbnuts22715 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Also, the bfgoodrich's have lasted WAYY longer than my yokohamas. The lasted only about 13k miles.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Something must have been wrong with your car (alignment, suspension, etc). Our last set of ES100 lasted 40K miles on our '94 GS-R, and it wasn't quite down to the treadwear indicator bars (close, but we could have kept using them). Our current set has over 20K miles with plenty of tread remaining. There's no way a set of ES100 would only last 13K miles. Not on a properly-maintained car, no way. That's Azenis treadwear, not ES100 treadwear. I realize that not everyone gets the same treadlife, but that one just doesn't pass the sniff test. I just don't believe it. Something must have been wrong with your car. Or maybe you were using the car ONLY at autocrosses. Or else you have the Yokohama ES100 confused with a faster-wearing tire like their A022A or AD07 or A032R.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by 98GSRDC2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">falken ziex ftw. cheap and durable!!</TD></TR></TABLE>

That's a terrible choice for anyone who doesn't have to use the tires in snow and frigid cold. The Ziex ZE-512 is an all-season tire (and not a particularly good one, either). All-seasons are designed for people who have to use the same tires in snow as in moderate to warm temperatures. Except at extreme cold temperatures or in snow, even inexpensive summer tires like the ES100 or SPT will give much, MUCH better performance than even a good all-season tire, let alone a crappy one like the Ziex ZE-512.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 08:53 PM
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I've had Firestone Firehawk Wide Ovals on mine for a few months and I am very impressed! I push my car alot and take turns, most of the time, as fast as I can. In all that time of drivin my car hard, I havent lost traction once! They arent the most attractive tire you can buy but, they've deffinity got a repeat customer when I have to replace them!
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 10:02 PM
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i like my Nitto Neo Gens.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 05:04 AM
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thanks nsxtacy you really know your tires!!!!
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 05:31 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BOOSTEd2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i like my Nitto Neo Gens. </TD></TR></TABLE>

The NeoGen is another all-season tire. Again, all-seasons are designed for people who have to use the same tires in snow as in moderate to warm temperatures. Except at extreme cold temperatures or in snow, even inexpensive summer tires like the ES100 or SPT will give much, MUCH better performance than all-season tires.

If you live in a place that experiences snow and frigid cold in winter, then you can use all-seasons all year round (although their performance won't be as good as using two sets of tires, with winter tires or all-seasons in winter, and summer tires the rest of the year). But if you live in Texas or California or anyplace else where it never snows, then you're better off using summer tires rather than all-season tires.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 09:47 AM
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i have toyo proxy 4's on my integra gsr and i had them also on my civic. there were on ls webs and blades, and i love them, they have lasted me so far 15k with tons of tread left. they are AWESOME when its dry, and also still great in the rain. The snow is totally different, havent tried and i wont. thats where the studded tires come in : )
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 12:40 PM
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the neo gens may be an all season tire but to me they handle just as well as the es100's my brother had on his hatch. treadwear 280 traction AAA
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 01:24 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BOOSTEd2 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">the neo gens may be an all season tire but to me they handle just as well as the es100's my brother had on his hatch. treadwear 280 traction AAA </TD></TR></TABLE>

That's your opinion, and you are welcome to it. My opinion is that the ES100 is significantly better.

Treadwear and traction ratings are always imprecise and often meaningless, but FWIW, the ES100 has the same treadwear and traction ratings.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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i'd def. get falken Ziex 512 or Azenis RT-615. i have 2 sets of Ziex 512's and they havent failed me yet.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 01:39 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by tooillen4u &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i'd def. get falken Ziex 512 or Azenis RT-615. i have 2 sets of Ziex 512's and they havent failed me yet.</TD></TR></TABLE>

Wow, I can't believe you're comparing one of the absolute worst street tires with one of the absolute best.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 01:42 PM
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relax. i never said the tires were the best, it's just my opinion.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 04:23 PM
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i have a set of falken ziex ze-512's on my extra set of 16's for my mr2. and i have to say. that has got to be the worst investment ever! my stock tires felt much better IMO.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 05:08 PM
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I've had my Azenis for over a year now and still look good. But I also dont beat on my DD either.
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Old Mar 22, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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the direzza dz-101 has acceptable dry traction but i wouldn't buy it for the performance. but hey they were like 34 dollars each after rebate when i bought them.
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Old Apr 15, 2007 | 09:05 PM
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i have a set of falken Ziex 512 for about 4 months already and i have to say they are not the best tires to have. i have 15s so 205/50/15 on sunflowers. i tracked them once and then a couple of trips to the mountains. and well my front tires are almost gone. LOL didnt noticed it until i changed my oil. but yeah i think i put about 5k on the front tires and tracked them once. so the tires didnt last as long as i hoped it would last. thinking about tires soon.
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