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Old May 23, 2002 | 10:26 PM
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Default Any advice for installing a Spoon shift linkage?

Dear HT members,
would muchly appreciate any advice or instructions given involving the replacement
of the original ITR shiftlinkage to a Spoon linkage+bushes.
Thanks!
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Old May 23, 2002 | 11:19 PM
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dont do it waste of monet just get some 9 dollar prothane bushings and call it a day.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 05:32 AM
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Too late, I already got it(bushes) and the linkage. Now I'll just have to install it.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 05:34 AM
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Default Re: Any advice for installing a Spoon shift linkage? (sutats)

What does the Spoon shift linkage claim to do? I've heard it's a modified Type R linkage. But for what?
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Old May 24, 2002 | 05:36 AM
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I thought it was a type r linkage, and it was only an upgrade for non type r's. How does it differ, Sutats?
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Old May 24, 2002 | 06:10 AM
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I haven't taken apart the ITR linkage or installed the Spoon linkage yet.
But the Spoon bushings that I ordered with the linkage has a diagram of the parts involved with the install.
If I'm not wrong, the rod at the top is the original ITR linkage, and the bottom rod is the Spoon linkage; same purpose yet different design.



The Spoon linkage is unpainted and has a slight gold appearance. Spoon claims the it's is lighter yet stronger than the original ITR linkage. As for the bushings, they are suppose to provide a more positive shift feel. Cheers!


[Modified by sutats, 1:11 AM 5/25/2002]
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Old May 24, 2002 | 06:19 AM
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Default Re: Any advice for installing a Spoon shift linkage? (sutats)

I haven't taken apart the ITR linkage or installed the Spoon linkage yet. But the Spoon bushings that I ordered with the linkage has a diagram of the parts involved with the install. If I'm not wrong, the rod at the top is the original ITR linkage, and the bottom rod is the Spoon linkage; same purpose yet different design.
Nope. The top bar is called the Extension Rod, and the bottom one is the shift rod. Your diagram looks exactly like my stock linkage. Shouda just spent $15 on ES bushings, IMO. Yet another victim of the Spoon hype.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 06:29 AM
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Nope. The top bar is called the Extension Rod, and the bottom one is the shift rod. Your diagram looks exactly like my stock linkage.
Phew, thank goodness you cleared that up.
I was beginning to wonder why they were so very different in design. hehe.

Well, I was after a new rod and the bushings would complement it perfectly. That's why I got them together. I'll give the cheap ones a go next time. hehe.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 06:32 AM
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if you don't mind me asking... how much for the spoon shift linkage..

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Old May 24, 2002 | 06:39 AM
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Sure. 14,000YEN(US$104). Cheers!
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Old May 24, 2002 | 06:44 AM
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That drawing is an exact copy (photocopy) from the service manual. I really don't see how the Spoon linkage can improve something in anyway.

Anyway it is not very complicated to change.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 07:01 AM
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I bought the Spoon linkage and bushings as a replacement of the stock ones. It's a tad lighter too...saves me from having to take a dump in the morning.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 07:03 AM
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Har har har...

Will
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Old May 24, 2002 | 07:23 AM
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Default Re: Any advice for installing a Spoon shift linkage? (Willard)

Hmm the part where the extension rod attaches to the tranny looks a bit different than in this diagram (this diagram is the way it is on my car):

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Old May 24, 2002 | 03:52 PM
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It looks the same to me.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 03:58 PM
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spoon diagram shows the 88+ d series trans mount on the stabilizer bar.
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Old May 24, 2002 | 04:18 PM
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spoon diagram shows the 88+ d series trans mount on the stabilizer bar.
What's that suppose to mean?
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Old May 24, 2002 | 04:22 PM
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lift your car up and get under there! itsa easy as heck bro! i think you need some 12mm and 10mm sockets,cant remember off hand, those pics make it look harder than it really is.

just remove your shift ****, unbolt the stabilizer bar from the tranny, youll need to punch out the fitting on the shift rod w/ a small pick or something (cant remember name of tool, i know im not helping much )

remove 2 bolts in the rear of the linkage and everything just comes down, tranfer shifter to new rod,bushings,etc...replace in reverse order.
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Old May 25, 2002 | 05:48 PM
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Help!

This is killing me, I've encountered two problems installing the bushings and the linkage.



First of all, I'm having trouble installing the bushing at the shifter end. The bushing just won't slip over the rod no matter how hard I try, I've even tried using grease on them.



And as for the linkage, I can't seem to be able to punch out the spring pin that's holding the shift rod to the transmission. It just won't budge!
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Old May 25, 2002 | 06:10 PM
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use a punch tool to get that out...
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Old May 25, 2002 | 07:41 PM
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use a punch tool to get that out...
You will need air tools to remove that drift pin; my friend used something that resembled a mini-jackhammer + a punch to knock out that pin.

Spoon bushings
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Old May 26, 2002 | 02:41 AM
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Thanks, I've managed to get the spring pin out by tapping away with the hammer and pin punch. I've tried it before but decided to try again and I realised that the movement was so slight that gives the illusion that it isn't coming out.


Original ITR shift rod vs. Spoon Sports shift rod.



Spoon Sports Shift Linkage Bushing(shifter end)


So at long last, I've installed the bushings and the shift rod as planned. Case closed and thanks for the help!
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Old May 26, 2002 | 12:00 PM
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Default Re: Any advice for installing a Spoon shift linkage? (sutats)

So at long last, I've installed the bushings and the shift rod as planned. Case closed and thanks for the help!
So, how is it? Any difference in shift length, or effort? I'm sure the bushings helped firm it up. Hopefully they wont make the vibrations too harsh. Do they only make that linkage for a DC2?
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Old May 27, 2002 | 12:49 AM
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So, how is it? Any difference in shift length, or effort? I'm sure the bushings helped firm it up. Hopefully they wont make the vibrations too harsh. Do they only make that linkage for a DC2?
The shift feels brutally precise, no slack/rebound whatsoever. I naturally shifted quicker because that's how precise it is, or maybe it's because of the lighter shift rod. The linkage(shift rod) is available for most Honda models. Cheers!
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Old May 27, 2002 | 05:26 AM
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The wonders of gold spray paint. J/K. Hey, if your happy with it, cool. Do you really think it improved shifting, or do you think its just in your head? I'm serious
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