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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 02:45 PM
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Im sorta debating on getting this next after i get rid of my M , just for now. I was wondering why its not as popular as say the TL. IMO it looks 100x better and its SH-AWD. Are there any drawbacks? Has anybody fixed up one yet? (lowered/wheels) .... what are your opinons on it?
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 04:15 PM
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Well, the reason why it isn't as popular as the TL is probably because of the price tag. We're talking nearly $20k price difference, if bought new. As far as drawbacks, there probably isn't much aftermarket support for the RL either.....besides wheels. There may be potential problems lowering an AWD vehicle??
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 05:12 PM
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It's the first Honda I've ever seen with 14x1.5 studs. (really means nothing, I just found it surprising)
The price tag keeps alot of people away. You could by a TL and a Civic for the price of a RL.
I think they are very good looking cars, not all that fast, but nice. I'd rather have a TL...or an older RL.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 07:28 PM
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I think they're hot, I would buy one (if I had the money)

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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 10:30 PM
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IMO they just arent worth it. What do they offer over a TL or another car in its class? IMO, nothing really.

Id opt for a TL over a RL. Yes it looks nice but IMO the TL looks nicer. The TL interior also seems nicer. The price doesnt justify the difference.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 04:46 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by A08_MThrizzle &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Im sorta debating on getting this next after i get rid of my M , just for now. I was wondering why its not as popular as say the TL. IMO it looks 100x better and its SH-AWD. Are there any drawbacks? Has anybody fixed up one yet? (lowered/wheels) .... what are your opinons on it? </TD></TR></TABLE>

I am not sure why the current RL hasn't caught on, but I have a theory.

For good or bad, I think that people believe it's a $50,000 300 HP AWD Accord. If you're a Honda guy, that's an ideal car.

But if you're coming from the outside, looking in, maybe that's kind of scary. I dunno. To me it seems a basically fine idea, but evidently I don't know so much.

For whatever it's worth, this is Ichishima's personal car, and he seems to like it very much. He races an S2000 personally, but he has been known to take the big car to the track for fun, and he and his drivers seem to have a blast with it.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 08:42 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by Autoworks &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It's the first Honda I've ever seen with 14x1.5 studs. (really means .</TD></TR></TABLE>

can you educate me more on teh studs? What does that mean and what does that infer about aftermarket wheels? (easier to stick on ..?)

Also I still thinks the RL looks nicer than the TL, and I like the fact that its way more rare than the TL. Im guessing probably the people who are buying luxury flagship cars (ie Lexus LS, Infiniti M etc) would rather prefer a V8 or something.

Is there really a bad drawback for lowering AWD? I see Audis all the time lowered etc.

I remember reading somewhere it isnt slow, but it isnt fast either.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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http://www.nasa25hour.com/press/lineup.pdf
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 11:11 AM
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ooh yea Ive seen that one as well as the Mugen Rl ... does anybody (regular people) have one? lol

Ive seen fixed up LS and such, so why not RL &gt;&lt;
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 07:26 AM
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it doesnt come in stick like the tL/civic/accord etc.
its also cramped inside
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 04:25 PM
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Stock for stock, the RL is slower than a TL(of the same years) even when the roads are wet. It's not so popular because of the price like already mentioned. Also, the Mugen one is a Honda Legend, but yes because of the Honda Legend, there is some aftermarket support which will be for the most part the same as a US RL, just have to find it. The coolest thing about the RL's is the technology put into them. If you've ever had the chance to really inspect them and look at the underbody, it's amazing the things that Honda has done to make it the most comfortable, smooth, quiet ride they could, there was a lot of engineering thought put into the car. I personally like the feel and look of the RL, but I do think it is a little pricey.
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 08:54 PM
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My mother recently purchased a RL....originally she told me she wanted something better than her 01 accord....i took her to acura to look at TSX's but to her they were too small for her so i pointed at the TL which we looked at but wasnt much better than the TSX as far as upgrades....I personally love the TL type S but for my mother it wasnt so hot....I didnt even think about the RL cause of the price so after checking out the Infinit M series, Lexus GS but neither really impressed my mother too much so I started reading up on the RL and i must say i was impressed. The innovation and engineering that went into the car was amazing...it won tech car of the year, 2 yrs in a row. After i showed my mother the RL she said that was the car she wanted....it is much more comfortable and who ever said its a $50,000 Accord has obviously not even been inside one....it has alot more room than the TL eventhough it doesnt appear to be much bigger than the TL. its the only car in production to have 5 star roll over rating. Carbon drive shafts, adapting headlights and collision avoidance are only some of its features...This is Honda's Flagship car, so you can imagine honda spared no expense in the design. For what the RL comes with compared to its competitors in its class, the RL is really a good value. For the guy who wants a comfortable car with loads of ammenities this is the car....its pretty quick too when you turn the VSA off....
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Old Mar 23, 2007 | 09:39 PM
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I think it truely comes down to if the car is really worth it. IMHO, if the car is pricey but is totally worth it then I would no problem paying that much for it. The RL is just not worth it. The TL is really messing up the sales of the RL.

Besides AWD, the TL offers everything else the RL does too. The RL does feel more cramped that the TL as well.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 04:03 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by alterdcreations &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
its also cramped inside</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by SiShane &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...it has alot more room than the TL </TD></TR></TABLE>

How do we account for two such completely different views of something that should be easly quantifiable?

Know what I'm curious about? I want to know if the 2008 TL AWD 300 HP car is going to have a manual transmission option.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 07:01 AM
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For 50k people probably look towards the name of the car like a bmw, Audi, Benz, alot of people with this kinda of money, might be materialistic. thats my theory.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 02:06 PM
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Hmmm.

Did a little research.

A new 2007 Acura RL (with Technology Package) in my part of the world is going to sell for about $45,000.

That's a decent discount.

In addition to that discount, Acura is currently giving dealers $3,500 in marketing support for new RL's.

It seems to me this makes the RL a very decently priced item.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 02:52 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by pistacio &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Well, the reason why it isn't as popular as the TL is probably because of the price tag. We're talking nearly $20k price difference, if bought new. As far as drawbacks, there probably isn't much aftermarket support for the RL either.....besides wheels. There may be potential problems lowering an AWD vehicle??</TD></TR></TABLE>

I would have to agree 100%. In my area 56K is what one would expect to pay for a new one.....not sure I am willing to eat that kinda change for a car.....
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 02:56 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">

I am not sure why the current RL hasn't caught on, but I have a theory.

For good or bad, I think that people believe it's a $50,000 300 HP AWD Accord. If you're a Honda guy, that's an ideal car.

But if you're coming from the outside, looking in, maybe that's kind of scary. I dunno. To me it seems a basically fine idea, but evidently I don't know so much.

For whatever it's worth, this is Ichishima's personal car, and he seems to like it very much. He races an S2000 personally, but he has been known to take the big car to the track for fun, and he and his drivers seem to have a blast with it.</TD></TR></TABLE>

not a chance someone would confuse a RL with an Accord.....I know you love your accord but it isn't all that and it definately isn't even close to the quality of an RL.....now of you would have said TL it would be a whole different story
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 02:58 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by George Knighton &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">
For good or bad, I think that people believe it's a $50,000 300 HP AWD Accord..</TD></TR></TABLE>
Here is what I said, just as a reminder.
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Old Mar 24, 2007 | 06:06 PM
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Like I mentioned earlier, I believe one of the downfalls is that the norm who buys these flagship cars prefer a V8 sucka in there. Although 50k does not get you a flagship german car, it gets you a middle guy I guess.

I always liked the look, and how rare it is. Im doubtful of getting it though, because of the resale ... are they going to stick a v8 in it soon? I think I read somewhere they were .
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 11:38 PM
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My mom paid 45,000 plus tax and registration....not a bad deal.....
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I would like one but not a chance I would buy one new....
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 07:29 AM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by YeuEmMaiMai &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I would like one but not a chance I would buy one new....</TD></TR></TABLE>
They seem to depreciate a little more than normal HOnda/Acura, too.
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 09:36 AM
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They seem to depreciate a little more than normal HOnda/Acura, too. </TD></TR></TABLE>

I was looking at the locals here and it seems if it is 2004 or older it really falls off.... I wonder if that has anything to do with LACK OF POWER

3.5L that is weaker than a 01-03 CL/TL type S by 35HP pulling 600lbs more car......

225/231 versus 260/237
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Old Mar 26, 2007 | 01:27 PM
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the older RL were just underpowered and overweight.

as for the new RL, paying 50G's, most buyers would expect at least a V8 for a flagship plus the styling is somewhat bland.

i do remember reading that acura will trim down the RL, as in options, to sell it for less ie offer it w/ no nav etc...

i wish acura would add RWD to the TSX, TL and TL S and as well as the SH-AWD to these same models.

i really want the 07 MDX tho.
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