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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 07:22 AM
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i was wondering what modifications u would need to make this happen. i know the motor comes with - Motor
- Hydraulic Tranny
- ECU (PRB)
- Axles with Half Shaft
- Shift Cables
- Stock Motor Mounts *
- Alternator
- Starter
- Clutch
- Flywheel
- Intake Manifold
- Exhaust Manifold
- Fuel Rail
- Injectors
- Coils
- Engine Harness
- Comes With All Sensors Needed and also the PRICE OF 4K+ shipping and thats for the type-S k20, the type R k20 is 5600+ but on top of all that it brings what else is needed? and will the a/c work? and how much everything needed come out to be>?
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 07:46 AM
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:09 AM
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mundo $$$
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:50 AM
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hasport mounts
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 10:11 AM
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$10k and then you get 170whp

Lots of potentail with that motor but if your a baller, than do it
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 10:14 AM
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bro y dont u do a b18c1,thats what i got....please dont go down the yellow brick road...its yellow cuz its alot of $
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 11:28 AM
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well i was thinkin about the k series bcuz right now i have a 2000 integra typeR i like the car but eh was looking maybe for a lil change and this came to mind i dont c it goin less than a b18c5 but for that ill just keep the ITR thats why i was asking about the K-series
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 12:23 PM
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build what you have. $10k into a b18c5 whether it be NA or FI will hold you over.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 12:27 PM
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stick with the Type R integra and build it...k series is to much and alot of work..plus y would u wanna put a k motor in a EM1 si... ??
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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i woudlnt wanna turbo or tear apart my ITR its in perfect condition its got 40k miles, if i was gonna turbo somethign i would of gotten a gsr or something like that but i already had my days with turbo cars, why an EM1 u might ask? and not a hatch? bcuz i like hatches but not for me, ive always liked blue SI's but their b16's are a POS, i wanna do something all motor, my car now has I/H/E cam gears and a hondata ecu dyno/street tuned, and not much else i can do to it, bcuz i dont want spray or turbo like i said,so a k-series into an SI will b nice and sorta rare i think + the si is prolly the same weight as my R wich is like about 2500lbs wich isnt bad with some basic bolt ons and k-pro i think it should ride out pretty nicely, im not into having a 500hp+ car bcuz i dont even like the track and cops are busting down on street racing like a **** , so i just wanted somethin nice with a lil go and thats what i want
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 01:49 PM
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im doing a k20a2 swap into my itr, so far, its costed me about 9k and its still not even in the car yet
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 02:05 PM
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What else can you do? Are you kidding? Take the head off have it ported. Put it a valve train and add some real cams. If that doesnt hold you over start with the block. Throw some higher compression pistons in there. You havent even started to build an all motor car. With just that headwork you would probally be happy for a while.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 03:10 PM
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^^^ u didnt read what i wrote, i said i didnt want to take apart anything i dont wana rebuild the block bcuz i dont want to take apart my R. the head eh cams maybe
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 03:21 PM
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the following is from hybrid-racing.com

"K Series Parts List

The following products are needed to complete a full K Series motor swap.

K series motor/tranny/ECU
K series engine harness
K series charging harness
Hybrid Racing motor mounts
P# MK01 EG/EK/DC
Hybrid Racing conversion harness
P# WH01 EG/EK/DC
Hybrid Racing axles in appropriate stage
P# CAS1/2/3 EG/EK/DC
Hybrid Racing clutch line
P# CLU01
Hybrid Racing radiator package
P# RAD01 EG/EK/DC
B/D series coolant temp sensor and fan switch
Hybrid Racing fuel rail
P# FUR01
Universal Fuel Pressure regulator
Custom Fit Fuel lines
OEM RSX shifter Box or Modified Accord shifter box
RSX Shifter Cables
Shifter linkage Clips
Aftermarket intake
Aftermarket Header
Custom Mid Pipe
Throttle cable for your application
EP3 pulley and belt (if retaining AC and OEM belt)"

one thing they forgot to mention is the hondata K-pr or dc5r ecu.
you'll need either one of those because the type s ecu won't work.
these parts+ your motor will run you $10k and up unless you're doing it your self.
goodluck.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 03:25 PM
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wish u the best of luck. if u have the money y not just build a gsr motor up and have an all motor?
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 05:28 PM
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bcuz a k-series into a em1 is rare to me and it would b ssomething i would like more than a gs-r
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 06:20 AM
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rare...yes....ut i dont think the rarness will bring u half of what u put into it when u sell it,,good luck tho
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Old Mar 25, 2007 | 04:16 PM
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Items are also loosely categorized and are meant to be the cheapest possible way to complete the swap. Please keep in mind this may not be 100% accurate to what you want to accomplish but it's damn close! Here it is!

ENGINE/TRANNY (All gaskets/seals are considered "known to be needed" items)
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K-series engine(K24/K20)
K-series tranny(Type-R/RSX-S/RSX Base)
K-series engine harness(RSX-S 02-04)
K-series charging harness(RSX-S 02-04)
K-series Alternator(For Engine of Choice)
K-series Starter(For Engine of Choice)
K-series ECU(RSX PRB 02-04) Plus Hondata K-Pro(Or JDM K-series ECU)
CRV Passenger side engine mount(needed for non-CRV K24 swaps)
Header(R-crew/DC/SSR)
Clutch/Flywheel(RSX-S)
RSX Type-S Oxygen Sensor(Primary)
RSX Type-S Knock Sensor(Only if not using RSX-S engine, Or repin stock Knock sensor)
RSX Type-S Clutch Slave Cylinder
RSX Type-S Halfshaft
RSX BASE Axles(For EG only, Swap inner joints)
RSX Type-S Throttle Body(Or Accord throttle body, depending on engine/intake)
RSX-S Intake Manifold(Or RBC/TSX/Accord)
Karcepts Throttle Body Adapter(only if using RBC)
Engine Mounts(Hybrid/Avid/Hasport)
Harness Conversion(Hybrid/Hasport)
Clutch Line(Hybrid Racing)

RADIATOR/COOLING (This is for using stock radiator)
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Hasport Billet Hose Adapter(For Stock B/D series Fan switch/coolant temp sensor)
Perma-Cool PRM-19120 11"x10" Fan
TOP Rad Hose - RSX Type-S Top Hose(for EK/EG)
BOTTOM Rad Hose - 99-00 Civic Si Top Hose(for EK/EG)

SHIFTER PARTS
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Karcepts Shifter mounting kit
RSX Type-S Shifter Box
RSX-S 02-04 Shifter Cables
Shift Parts to Connect Cables (OEM, easy)

EXHAUST PARTS (Must be custom welded, Can substitute for 2.5")
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Kteller 3" Stainless Piping
3" in/out Muffler
Catalytic Converter if you choose to use one.

FUEL SYSTEM PARTS (Using stock fuel rail, minimum costs)
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(www.summitracing.com)
EAR-991945ERL - Converts OEM fuel filter to -6 AN fitting
EAR-165056ERL - Converts OEM fuel rail to -6 AN fitting
RUS-610020 x 4 - Straight -6 AN Hose couplers
SUM-220166N x 3 - Straight cut -6 AN to -6 An hose, Ports on FPR.
RUS-610160 - 90 Degree -6 AN Coupler from fuel filter to FPR.
RUS-632070 - 10 feet -6 AN Hose
AEI-13109 - Aeromotive Fuel Pressure Regulator.
Walbro 190/255lph Fuel Pump(It's cheap, and worth it - http://www.hybrid-performance.com)

IF REMOVING POWER STEERING(with no A/C)
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EP3 Idler pulley/bracket
Manual Steering rack, Or Loop P/S rack
K24 = 52" Serpentine Belt(works perfectly on mine)
K20 = 50.5" Serpentine Belt

IF KEEPING POWER STEERING (No A/C - With a current P/S rack)
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K20 PS Pump
Jackson Racing Pulley - P/N: 052-154 (This will clear an EG hood with K20 swap, no hole...only cutting.)
52" Serpentine Belt(only for K20 - K24 = Unknown?)
02-04 RSX High pressure hose
3/8" I.D. hose
Oil cooler from Perma-Cool Industries P/N:1007 (for P/S fluid return line)

Fluid NEEDS:
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POWER STEERING FLUID - 2 Bottles
DOT3 Brake fluid - 2 Bottles
Coolant 50/50 Mix - 2 Bottles(3 to be safe/cover leaking or spillage)
MTF - 3 Bottles
OIL - 6 Quarts

RANDOM HOSES (Not totaly acurate for ALL swap configurations, keep in mind O.D. and I.D. measurements)
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10' 3/16" I.D. Hose (possibly not all swaps)
10' 1/4" I.D. Hose
10' 3/8" I.D. Hose
5' 3/4" O.D. Hose
5' 1" O.D. Hose (possibly not all swaps)

MISC BOLTS/Parts (This is mainly used if you buy Engine/Trans apart from one another)
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90034-P10-A01 X 6 clutch bolts
90011-PNA-B00 x 8 flywheel bolts
22103-PNA-003 pilot bearing
95701-12060-08 x4 tranny bolts
95701-12085-08 x 2 starter bolts
90027-PND-A00 starter bolt long
90025-PNA-000 bolt
95701-08055-08 x 2
90008-PNA-000 x 2 alternator bolts
90008-PPA-000 bolt
21351-PNB-000 cover for tranny to connect k24a with k20a2 type s tranny(only K24)
95701-06012-08 x 3 bolts

MAIN SITES TO USE:
https://www.hondapartsdeals.com/
http://www.thehondapartsstore.com/
http://www.acuraparts247.com/
http://www.acuraoemparts.com/delray/jsp/home.jsp
http://www.summitracing.com
http://www.jhpusa.com
http://www.hasport.com
http://www.hybrid-racing.com/
http://www.karcepts.com/
http://www.rockauto.com/ (cheap hard to find OEM parts)
http://www.rcrewracing.com
http://www.sixsigmaracing.com/home.htm
http://www.motors.ebay.com/ (you can save a lot if you look for deals)

This should be absoloutley EVERYTHING you need to complete a K20/24 swap, Minor variances will be there as this list is meant for an EG only because It's what I own However it should be 95% of what you need for EK/DC2 aswell.
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