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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 05:31 PM
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Its about 5.25" from the ground. The tires are 195-50-15 junk, I will replace with a bit taller tire. Does anybody think I will have any problems with clearance issues. I think is should be good! Its not a daily driver. still sittin on stock suspension.








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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 05:39 PM
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I wouldnt go near any speed bumps or back down any small hills.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 05:41 PM
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i think it will be fine....i'm rocking the old school N1 on my EG ..talk about clearance issue's
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 05:43 PM
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that stock exhaust is comming off, the car is still under construction. I am putting on an apexi N1 turbo on.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 06:04 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by xenocron &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I wouldnt go near any speed bumps or back down any small hills.</TD></TR></TABLE>

The tires should hit the bumps first, I myself would of mounted it higher, and used some angle degree bends.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 06:12 PM
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why not protect it with a nice piece of sheetmetal?
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 06:18 PM
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I wanted to keep the flow thats why I mounted it like that.

sheetmetal will protect it from road debris, but if I were to hit something solid it would either crush the shield or the floor where its mounted depending on the construction.

I was reading a post that a guy had his 4" from the ground. Not sure if it was a dd but I think it was.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 06:20 PM
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too scary for me.. i would mount the pump and filter on the higher part of the underbody, and use the necessary fittings to route it.
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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 07:35 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by ccivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">too scary for me.. i would mount the pump and filter on the higher part of the underbody,<U></U> and use the necessary fittings to route it.</TD></TR></TABLE>


He's actually got the pump mount properly. Aeromotive pumps are gravity feed and are recomended to be mounted at the same level or lower then the sump. This is what aeromotive told me on the phone. Just be careful with it. I'd definately think about building some type of shield like the others said. It's also help with keeping is mounted securely..


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Old Mar 19, 2007 | 08:33 PM
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I would be worried about it being mounted that way. The gas tank will move around, its not mounted directly on the car but it rest on the metal strap. I think it would put a lot of stress on the AN fittings.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 03:09 AM
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them straps are tight, it does hold it right up to the car. if there is going to be movement it is going to be very minimual
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 03:44 AM
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i suggest putting some hose between the fittings so the vibration from the pump wont crack them.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 04:45 AM
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dang that car is barely lowered and the pump is that close to the ground! i wouldnt even make it out of my driveway with the pump that low.....hmmm that might be the deciding factor for me to not go with a sump....

function&gt;form though, i like the fact that you mounted it in the correct manner unlike some of sumps you see...
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 12:01 PM
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how big are the bolt diameter? thats alot of weight hanging there.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 12:18 PM
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that looks so shady to me lol....


i wouldnt do it personally, but hey, whatever floats your boat...
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 01:34 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by dturbocivic &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">i suggest putting some hose between the fittings so the vibration from the pump wont crack them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

That is a good idea, I never thought of the fittings cracking. Thanks again for the help with the clutch questions.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedcivicsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">how big are the bolt diameter? thats alot of weight hanging there.</TD></TR></TABLE>

They are 1/4-20, thats what the directions say to use. I hang pipe alot heavier with the same stuff.

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by I.C.C. &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">that looks so shady to me lol....


i wouldnt do it personally, but hey, whatever floats your boat... </TD></TR></TABLE>

What looks shady? The bolts or the distance from the ground? Its not a show car but I dont want it to look like crap either.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nitroice40 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">What looks shady? The bolts or the distance from the ground? Its not a show car but I dont want it to look like crap either.</TD></TR></TABLE>

both... the way those bolts are setup just leaves too many things to vibrate loose, and they just dont look thick enough to hold up to too much vibration considering the weight they are supporting... It also looks like it is just too low for a street driven car... Even if its not daily driven, all it would take is one missed speed bump or something laying out on a dark road, and its done for... And when you involve fuel, it can get pretty serious if something were to happen...

Who knows, it may work flawlessly, just looking at it, I dont think I would take the risk with the potential problems you COULD have... If you really want to do it that way, I would look into having someone make some kind of bracket for you or something....
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 02:19 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by nitroice40 &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">They are 1/4-20, thats what the directions say to use. I hang pipe alot heavier with the same stuff.</TD></TR></TABLE>

but is the pipe you hang subjected to the g forces associated with drag racing? if it were bolted directly to the well with like a 1/4 20 x say 1 1/2" then yes thats ok, but with a bolt length like that, again thats alot of weight hanging there. im not flaming, you asked for thoughts on that and we are giving them.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 02:25 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by boostedcivicsir &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">but is the pipe you hang subjected to the g forces associated with drag racing? if it were bolted directly to the well with like a 1/4 20 x say 1 1/2" then yes thats ok, but with a bolt length like that, again thats alot of weight hanging there. im not flaming, you asked for thoughts on that and we are giving them.</TD></TR></TABLE>

i agree 100%
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 02:53 PM
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threaded rod ftw, thats how we hang unit heaters and air handlers. i would double nut the rod on the ends and use washers on the top and bottom where it mounts to the car just for the hell of it.
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 03:16 PM
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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by y7turbo &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">threaded rod ftw, thats how we hang unit heaters and air handlers. i would double nut the rod on the ends and use washers on the top and bottom where it mounts to the car just for the hell of it. </TD></TR></TABLE>

agreed...distribute the load w/ a sligthy bigger bolt & washer...i also second you coat them w/ some loctite to help prevent looseing along w/ double nutting everything...and youll also want tubing as a thermal buffer as thr tank expands slighty and you dont want to stress the fittings or your mount
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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 05:35 PM
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here are a few new pics. If I move the pump sideways I can get some rubber line in there and its about 1.5" higher. Does this look better? The line that goes from the filter to the pump is going uphill a bit.







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Old Mar 20, 2007 | 08:31 PM
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looks alot better in the new pics you should be fine with the pump being a little higher mine is mounted on the rear cross member i made a bracket and mines about 2 inches higher then the filter .
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 05:14 AM
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I run the Eliminator and I understand the directions, but in my own testing, it did pull the fuel even though it is not a puller type pump. That little amount of an increase is not a problem.

Here is how I ran mine.
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Old Mar 21, 2007 | 05:32 AM
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as long as the level of the fuel is above the inlet youll be ok. if the pump was mounted above the top of the tank id worry. my weldon will be interesting
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