I have an 02 accord ex F23 and i cant seem to find in the accord faq thread how much ATF i use? Someone told me 3 quarts, is this correct? Do i fill through the dipstick hole? What is the proper brake bleeding sequence? Is it Front driver, Front passenger, Rear driver, Rear passenger?


Modified by BoltonGSR at 4:33 PM 3/19/2007

 

You do the furthest from the master cylinder first so it would be passenger rear, driver rear, passenger, then driver....

You go to the caliper have someone pump and hold the brake, losen the bleeder, the pedal will be pushed to the floor, then tighten the bleeder, same way on the rest ( unless u have the 1 man brake bleeder tool)

and yes u fill the trans threw the dipstick hole, it takes about 3-5- 4 quarts..

Id put in 3, start the car, let it warm up for a while, run it threw the gears, turn it off then check it

might take a few times for it to show a correct reading

 

Yes 3 quarts of Honda Z-1 ATF

Brake bleeding 101

 

Damnit


Modified by BoltonGSR at 5:46 PM 3/19/2007

 

What the hell... i thought it was always the exact opposite bleeding sequence as that.. is honda different??

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by standbackimapro &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You do the furthest from the master cylinder first so it would be passenger rear, driver rear, passenger, then driver....

You go to the caliper have someone pump and hold the brake, losen the bleeder, the pedal will be pushed to the floor, then tighten the bleeder, same way on the rest ( unless u have the 1 man brake bleeder tool)

and yes u fill the trans threw the dipstick hole, it takes about 3-5- 4 quarts..

Id put in 3, start the car, let it warm up for a while, run it threw the gears, turn it off then check it

might take a few times for it to show a correct reading
</TD></TR></TABLE>

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by hondadude &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Yes 3 quarts of Honda Z-1 ATF

Brake bleeding 101

</TD></TR></TABLE>Both of these are conflicting... i thought you always do the farthest first... but in that picture its opposite... Where did you get that?

 

bump? Both of the above bleeding sequences are conflicting... can someone clarify?

 

Yea thats weird. Most to all sites says the farthest from the master cylinder then the 2nd then the 3rd and so on.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoltonGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">bump? Both of the above bleeding sequences are conflicting... can someone clarify?</TD></TR></TABLE>Depends on the particular car.

Back in 'the day' you would start with the furthest from the MC. That almost always would prevent pushing air bubbles into a line which you had already finished.

Then somewhere in the late '60s or so, they started doing 'dual-diagonal' brakes. For those, you'd do each diagonal circuit. LR then RF (same circuit) then RR & LF.

Even then there were certain cars that were exceptions, but they were sorta unusual. I had a '74 BMW with a strange bleeding sequence.

With ABS, the plumbing details were all over the map. You still want to choose a bleeding order where you avoid pushing air bubbles into a line that's already been done. But they're all different. ABS modulator units are located all over the place, tubing runs aren't the same for all cars, etc... So you HAVE to look it up.

Finally, some good news. If you bleed them in the wrong order (gasp...), you'll simply have to go around a couple more times, repeating them until ALL the air is gone.

 

Yeah, theyre criss crossed so in the event of brake failure youll at least have a right rear and left front to maintain stability during braking... thanks for the info, ill just look it up at alldata at school to get the RIGHT sequence... ill post it.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by BoltonGSR &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... ill just look it up at alldata at school to get the RIGHT sequence... ill post it.</TD></TR></TABLE>When you post it, see if you can find out (from AllData) which range of years & models it applies to. I've seen a LOT of postings about bleeding sequence, and one common problem is that people seem to believe that one bleeding sequence is correct for all cars, all years.

However, the Helm book for '98-'99 Accord has the same sequence as hondadude posted. (LF-RF-RR-LR) I think that's good for all 6th-gen Accords with 4-cyl engine. The V-6 engine might have the ABS modulator located somewhere else in the engine bay, so maybe that's different? Or maybe not?

For example my '95 Integra had the ABS modulator located in a different corner of the engine bay vs. a '95 Accord. While the ABS systems were virtually the same, the plumbing details resulted in a different bleeding order.

 

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD>Quote, originally posted by JimBlake &raquo;</TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">When you post it, see if you can find out (from AllData) which range of years & models it applies to. I've seen a LOT of postings about bleeding sequence, and one common problem is that people seem to believe that one bleeding sequence is correct for all cars, all years.

However, the Helm book for '98-'99 Accord has the same sequence as hondadude posted. (LF-RF-RR-LR) I think that's good for all 6th-gen Accords with 4-cyl engine. The V-6 engine might have the ABS modulator located somewhere else in the engine bay, so maybe that's different? Or maybe not?

For example my '95 Integra had the ABS modulator located in a different corner of the engine bay vs. a '95 Accord. While the ABS systems were virtually the same, the plumbing details resulted in a different bleeding order.
</TD></TR></TABLE>Yes, yes i know... i was really suprised in the accord FAQ i couldnt find something as simple as how many quarts of tranny fluid to add... ill figure out that info from alldata and post it, hopefully it will get stickied but what i found for my 02 accord ex is...

FL
FR
RR
RL

This is alldata so i trust it... i would post a pic of the actual print out but i dont wanna get in trouble for it haha... your not supposed to...

 

My '98 Accord EX F23 auto-tranny takes a little less than 3 quarts of ATF for a drain/fill. The HELM manual says 6.6 quarts total.

The torque converter doesn't drain, so that's why there's a big difference.

I expect your 2002 would be the same.