ok so i suck at making titles

anyways i just got my CG6 back from good year and left them a copy of the page of manual with the alignment specs... got the car back and they told me that the car is still pulling to the left... even though they aligned everything all to spec.. beacause of one tire being exceptionallly low on tread... then they tried to sell me more tires

 

Wait, Did you ask them for before and after alignment spec sheets? If they didnt give you a copy of those sheets, you might have been duped.

I'm pretty sure a tire being low on tread life would cause a pull. Depends on how much tread is left on the tire. Or the belts on the inside of the treads are warped.

Have you tried rotating the tires to see if the problem still exists?

 

yeah they rotated the tires, still drives stupid

 

a shop told me this too after i drove like a yr on a fucked up alignment. it pulled to the left and wore the tire down that way so when I got it back in spec it still pull a little. my tires were directionaly so I couldnt swap sides, but I would think if you can rotate sides then it woudl fix the probalem or maybe move the problem to the other side so atleast you know its the tires...gl

 

yeah i been drinving liek a year and ahalf on F'd up alignment with low, directional treads...

ahh hell, well ima get some Falken ZIEX ZE-512's soon (graduatiuon lol maybe)

 

ask for a before and after and make sure u look at the specs. i do alignments all day and it is way easy to change the specs to make it look like the alignment is fine. scan and post it up so we can see I';; tell u if its correct

 

Modified by 361accord at 9:28 PM 3/21/2007

 

my bad i though an edit would also serve as a bump but i guess not, just uploaded the scan of alignment

 

bump cuz my car is still stupid

 

look at the actual and before numbers none of them changed except for the right rear and the left rear toe.

now something odd is going on, because unless you have a rear camber kit you cant adjust the rear toe without it effecting the camber, so the left one looks fishy to me. they moved it .25 without it effecting the camber. I guess it's possible with some slop in their equipment but I'm not buying it.

I'd tell them that you want the toe set to 0 on all 4 corners. The car will drive straight like that, even if you camber is fucked.


I can get a car to drive straight by doing the alignment in my garage with string and a ruler measured in 32nds. I'd think a monkey could do it on a rack with a laser pretty reliably. Yeah. It takes me longer, but I can still do my rear camber and toe in about an hour when I move my coilovers.


Also, swap the tires on the sides. the directional stuff makes a difference, but it's not like you're going to loose control of the car if you have them on the wrong side. it's just going to make more road noise and suck in the rain

 

Alignment sheets dont mean ****. If the machine is out of wack then it will give incorrect readings when doing the alignment. Our machine sucked *** so I used to set the toe by eye and manipulate the heads to give me a good print out for the customer. if the one tire is bald and the other has good tread on it the car will pull to the side with the tread in many cases. All you have to do is switch them to see if this is the case. If it still pulls the same way then the problem is with your alignment and not your tires.

 

i think im gonna take it to some other place with 1/2 tank gas, and my *** in the driver seat, to a place that does free alignment checks

oo and all my tires are the same, chiit

 

ok..so in your first post..one of your tires are exceptionally low on tread but now they are all fine?..im confused

 

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well that what the guy said...i know theyre all the same though, ive seen every inch of them

 

well..like said before...switch out the wheel that is supposively low on tread to the other side and see if that makes it pull the other way..if so then you do have a problem with that tire

 

bump cuz car is still driving crooked

 

well for starters jweller is wrong. u can set the rear toe without affecting the camber. if u were to change the rear camber then the toe would change for sure. according to the front camber ur car should not bepulling even though the left side is 0.2 degrees more positive than the right, but that is good because it counters road crown.

the rear looks fine to me they did change the right rear toe wich is good because according the the before readings ur car shold have been pulling to the left.

The rear camber was not adjusted at all even though u see a change that could have just been because the car was sitting slightly higher or lower than when they saved the before measurements. not to mention there is no rear camber adjustment.

I agree on two things
1) the car can pull to the side in which you have a bald or low tred tire
2) the machine could not be calibrated right in which case the adjustments dont mean sh*t

Suggestions: 1) Get a new tire or if u can replace the two worst and have them rotate them to the front
2) If u cant afford to get new tires tell them that u think it might be a directional pull and ask them to rotate the 2 front tires left to right. if the car pulls the oposite direction after the indicated rotation then its gonna be a radial pull.

i would strongly recomend that u get atleast one tire 2 would be better. i can almost garanty that its pulling because of the bald tire, thats only if the measurements are accurate.

i will pull up the specs for ur car 2morrow and compare them 2 the sheet u posted. Because like i stated befor its way too easy to just change he specs to make it seem that its fine


Edit: the rear camber is -0.9 on the left and +0.04. ther is a difference of 13 there. according to this ur car should pull to the left


Modified by loup05 at 8:21 PM 3/28/2007

 

hmm well i have a torque wrench and jacks so i can rotate the 2 front's myself lol

 

ok my queastion now is where is the bald tire located?

 

well, there actaully is no bald tire, theyre all evenly pretty low, the guys at the shop are just stupid, cuz my mom jacked my car and then got my aunt to take it in to the shop, so im sure they tried to rip off old ladies(55,5x) that dont know jack **** about cars...

 

BUMP cuz still drvin exactly the same i think i wanna take it in to some other place that does free checks

 

 

sorry bout that, but BUMP!

 

Your caster is fucked, and so is your front camber, the ONLY!! 2 things that will affect alignment pull. Toe will straighten out the steering wheel.

Your left front wheel is pushed back slightly more then the right side.

The problem here is, they didnt put in any offset to the right, thats why it still pulls.

The toe is fine, because its still in spec. Look at the total numbers.

Tires can pull when they get low in tread, its called 'Radial tire pull' i'm not 100% sure how it happens, but its something to do with the belts shifting inside the tire.

 

i agree with the caster coment its slightly off which will create a pull